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Submitted by KingJulian
Posted oktober 22, 2009 09:00 PM

‘Mad_genius’ you have put an interesting spin on things — Gay rights NGOs. Asylum seekers as well probably.

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Submitted by KGacuca
Posted oktober 22, 2009 08:26 PM

The Bible is jewish history mixed with myth! If teh bible is so much teh word of god, how come teher are no africans in it?! or did we not exist in teh eyes of the christian/jewish god? oh yeah and no Indians or chinese either.. Africans crack me up, they adopt western religion, but all over sudden gayness is western?!

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Submitted by axe08
Posted oktober 22, 2009 07:53 PM

For some reason, my original comment did not pass the approval test. But I insist, Chege and Cleaves, and so many other secretly gay have simply fallen victim of western media propaganda of promoting gay lifestyle as simply different but not wrong. Mr. and Mrs. Chege, God can heal your mental sickness.

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Submitted by mkimwa77
Posted oktober 22, 2009 06:24 PM

oh come on guys leave this guys alone, we are having population crisis in kenya i’m sure we could use some homos now:)

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Submitted by dhul_g
Posted oktober 22, 2009 06:20 PM

katapila.. How do u know that coastarians do not comment .. ppl use aliases here,r u able to know where ppl came from by their aliases . wewe ni mnoma sana .. n dont pretend u dont know the practice is wide spread in kenya my friend. ua just lying 2 ua self

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Submitted by Ian wa kitale
Posted oktober 22, 2009 05:52 PM

this is so shameful.man to man.in few days you go hear them having kids by adapting.so y are they allowed to adopt kids?may the wrath of GOD punish them with there western life.sodoma and gomora was destoyed by the same homo’s vibes.but they will reap what they planted.douglas ndenga

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Submitted by maithyaEmman
Posted oktober 22, 2009 05:35 PM

After going through all 2003 comments, I have deduced that the homos can ONLY justify themselves by pointing out other ills in the society – two (or more) wrongs do not make a right. I see it all the time with my kiuk friends justifying mk by saying that Raila is also bad – how absurd!

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Submitted by katapila
Posted oktober 22, 2009 04:43 PM

Hey people, have you noticed that coastarians are saying nothing because this is daily routine.Kenyans are shocked because the do not frequent tourist hotels.Ask coastarians this practice has been on going probably from the construction of Fort Jesus.Westlands Nairobi is the head office for this boot chaps.Charity begins at home end the practice here before we go overseas.They should have invited there parents if they are proud of it.

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Submitted by oevanz
Posted oktober 22, 2009 03:37 PM

this is stupidity of the highest order.these ppl are kikuyus and are having kivuitu charactrs of rigging marriage.let them stay permanently in london.shame on them.evans onyango from greece.

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Submitted by olegaita66
Posted oktober 22, 2009 03:36 PM

Probably being gay is embedded in some peoples’ chromosomes as mutation, but it is so obvious that this is a result biological malfunction. Nature always intends there be passage of offsprings.This you can’t get from this type of union.Therefore gays should be regarded in the same way as disabled population.

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Submitted by flexy832003
Posted oktober 22, 2009 02:45 PM

lemmi make it 200 comments n counting…lemmi make an observation: i bet every kenyan knows at least one gay or lesbian friend…n am in the Closet..this means i can sell for any potential man out there. Maybe am the doctor who used that thermometer on u last week!…off-course all that professionally, get over it. its all proven in the human demographic distribution n currently at least 1:10 are gay n 1:20 have had a gay moment.u shocked!…hehe

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Submitted by vgogero
Posted oktober 22, 2009 02:41 PM

Those who have read widely will tell you that gayism is not even human .Humans are the only species that face each during copulation and that is why they are the most intelligent creatures check your facts.

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Submitted by mkaidi
Posted oktober 22, 2009 02:15 PM

something is seriously wrong with this two do they at one point reverse their roles ama one is the woman until death do them part.

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Submitted by truthhurts
Posted oktober 22, 2009 12:37 PM

c,mon guys,dont pretend that kenya is a holy land,if were to be then jerusalem wouldnt have accepted gays.whats is african that is really practised??,only that we trying to cope every new trends from the west and nobody wants to where skin hides anymore.being gay is not the problem affecting our nation.live and let the others blossom guyz.

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Submitted by mad_genius
Posted oktober 22, 2009 11:48 AM

Hold back your dogs people! I know the two gentlemen. They just saw a business opportunity here. The more you curse them, the better chance they have with their planned ‘Kenyans Gays in Exile’ organization. When AIDS was news, Muriuki came out as a sufferer. In a few years, he was a millionaire. Watch these enterprising Kenyans make a kill as they happily hump each other. Be enterprising, turn gay!

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Submitted by labs
Posted oktober 22, 2009 10:23 AM

I am not Homophobia but i stick to my strong belief that marriage is a union btwn a Man and a woman. Anything more or less is Sin. Most gay PPL are the most depressed ppl and most of them go insane before they age from depression and feeling outcasted by society. Most gay ppl turn gay after failed marriages and 90% of gay ppl have been reported to be seeing partners of the opposite sex at the same time. So the gay Shenanigan is a Hype lived by many for few yrs and grow out of fast. Caleb Mauti.

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Submitted by thecreature
Posted oktober 22, 2009 08:19 AM

Many of my non-Kikuyu friends tell me that we Kikuyus would lick the devil’s ass, if that act was to benefit us financially. I see the same trend here – one of my tribesman is willing to engage in this ashaming and immoral union for that British passport. Given time, I foresee human beings marrying goats and dogs, because we are ‘free’! This is absolutely ashaming not only to our tribe, but to Kenya as a whole!

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Submitted by kriskath
Posted oktober 22, 2009 07:43 AM

Be the first to cast a stone at them, if you have not sinned. Otherwise leave them alone. Mind your own business.

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Submitted by KingJulian
Posted oktober 22, 2009 06:00 AM

180 comments and counting….wow!! I may not understand homosexuality, why and how, nature versus nurture etc but I believe I have no right to judge. I only wish people were this passionate about all the other problems plaguing the nation… **shaking head** Sad!

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Submitted by kwambai85
Posted oktober 22, 2009 05:58 AM

I dont stand for homosexuality, but i really condemn the way kenyans argue about the issue of homosexuality, when i read stuff like God will curse them, it makes feel sick, What is right or wrong, or things to do with believes must be reserved to individuals and your own faith, if people choose their way of life, i dont mind, they dont affect my own, because maybe they dont believe what i believe, i thinks our hands are tied up to condemn anyone, what do say then of prostitution, corruption etc.

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Submitted by babamoi2008
Posted oktober 22, 2009 05:20 AM

Apostle Paul was not Kenyan. Hence, quoting him as an authority is irrelevant. Gay’s, like black people,are being oppressed by ideological/ fanatical interpretations of the bible. It is time we gave them FULL recognition as fellow human beings. Hypocrisy, bigotry and intolerance won’t advance our society.

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Submitted by IAssumpter
Posted oktober 22, 2009 04:15 AM

I’m not for or against gays and lesbians (i choose not to care and let people be).But I gotta say Kenyans are very funny people…what is being gay compared to maiming and killing people (Mungiki) and burning people in church etc?? WHICH IS WORSE???Eti we used to be a Peace-Love-Unity country. My foot! Let people do what they want to do. Maisha ni yao, they are adults.Funga macho if you don’t want to see sin.

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Submitted by alfotula
Posted oktober 22, 2009 03:30 AM

Jesus was crucified for a lesser “sin”.

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Submitted by nyathiokoth
Posted oktober 22, 2009 12:38 AM

Dunia imeeisha that is all i can say..judgement is to the Lord,but kama ni my relative i would never associate myself, this is my opinion.

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Submitted by Mugadi
Posted oktober 22, 2009 12:38 AM

I love these homophobic comments..it’s amazing how people are quick to quote the bible..and african cultural norms and recall the out dated psychology 101 classes to make their point.. just amazing..

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Submitted by surakug
Posted oktober 22, 2009 12:33 AM

Am not quick to judge gay people but would rather understand why people are gay. Are they born gay? Am actually interested in any literature about african culture if anyone has that information. @njeridiva i dont think its wise to be quick to call african traditions backward, coz i believe that every cultural practice had an explanation that made sense at that time. I live in Norway where being gay is allowed, even priests are gay, but even here the majority has just accepted gaysim, most parents dread that their kids could be gay.

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Submitted by Master
Posted oktober 22, 2009 12:17 AM

@ Jimmy. The Master is now speaking. As pointed out by Waiyaki, gayism is not tolerated even in the Bible – the oldest reference book amongst God’s people. Remember, God’s intended purpose for sexual activity is procreation, not fun. And gays cannot make children! As a rough guide, anything that is not practised by the lower animals is unnatural and should never be practised by mankind. Neither sheep nor wolves practise gayism!!! Not even your favorite meal – chicken – stoops so low. Have a reflective day, won’t you?

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Submitted by mapesa
Posted oktober 21, 2009 11:23 PM

I doubt that we should spend so much energy arguing to and fro about whether or not gayism is an acceptable human trait. Religion aside, morality aside, and witchcraft aside too, just think simple biology. Suppose we all converted “homo”, wouldnt that be a sure highway to self-extincting our species? Now think morphology. They have eyes but they do not see!

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Submitted by flexy832003
Posted oktober 21, 2009 10:13 PM

he he he!…wacheni siasa!…hawa wanaume wamemfanya nini? they are so genuine…they are so honest and now u condemn them!? Lemmi call a spade a spade!…gay is real,ask me!? gals just don’t turn us on! so think of this: -are they corrupt?–no! -did they marry a wife just to neglect her–no! -did they steal IDP land?–no! -are they pedophiles?–no! let people live their life freely, its their life…not OUR life…n let God do the judgement…for it is also written that we shall not judge…ti he he !

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Submitted by bachelora
Posted oktober 21, 2009 09:23 PM

This is great news. Good luck guys, God loves you guys and gays and straight alike. To the straight christians the bible was written 2000 years ago, move with time or perish. Keep the good principles of the bible and leave the rest. The bible is just a book its not GOD. It was influenced by European politicans to control the Masses in their times. A victory for gay Kenyan brothers and sisters. Kenyans wake up.

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Submitted by VikkiT
Posted oktober 21, 2009 08:40 PM

vgogero- Your mindset is very alarming. In that case do you also advocate for the isolation of rape victims, Aids carriers and Sufferers? or Other Behaviors that society deems “abnormal?” Leave them alone they are not harming you and your precious morals. I dont understand the homosexual lifestyle but I think as humans we owe them respect.

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Submitted by Tingo
Posted oktober 21, 2009 08:12 PM

EEeewwww!!!!! God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve!!! And wifey needs a make up artist, that eye pencil is wrong!!!! The powder is gross!!!!!!

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Submitted by waiyaki1
Posted oktober 21, 2009 07:58 PM

The Apostle Paul, writing by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, declares that homosexuality “shall not inherit the kingdom of God” (I Corinthians 6:9; 10). Homosexuality is an illicit lust forbidden by God. He said to His people Israel, “Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination” (Leviticus 18:22). “If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them” (Leviticus 20:13). The Christian can neither alter God’s viewpoint nor depart from it.

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Submitted by jimmymacharia
Posted oktober 21, 2009 06:04 PM

What have these 2 men done to warrant our condemnation? Is it not a case of anyone without sin be the first to cast a stone? I by no miens support guys for the bible tells me so. But it also tells me to love and pray; even for my enemies? I leave the judgment to the Master. The condemnation is a case of, seeing a spec in the others eye without seeing a log in yours.

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Submitted by vgogero
Posted oktober 21, 2009 05:36 PM

To be gay is simply abnormal and goes against both natural laws and religious sanctions .No sane or sober minded person can condone such behavior and the parents and relatives of the couple or duo should condemn and isolate them as outcasts and social deviants or misfits.

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Submitted by drdre2011
Posted oktober 21, 2009 05:17 PM

this is society losing roots and being brainwshed by this UnGodly western cultures! why there was no gays in the past ….Totally condemned

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Submitted by mottaf
Posted oktober 21, 2009 04:52 PM

Signs of End time!!!!

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Submitted by Fyjah
Posted oktober 21, 2009 04:03 PM

We are behaving like ancient people used to behave towards the lepers; issolating and condemning. Yet we use God as our shield to do so. Jesus himself touched and healed a leper. He even accepted tiding from a prostitute. He farther dared ‘he without sin cast the first stone’ and no one did. What am saying is that we try to emulate men and women of character and Jesus led by example.

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Submitted by Fyjah
Posted oktober 21, 2009 03:53 PM

There is nothing normal about homosexuality to the heterosexuals just as there is nothing normal about heterosexuality to the gays and lesbians. However, it is not right to condemn anyone just because the majority of us are non-gay(or so we think).

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Submitted by maliha001@yahoo.com
Posted oktober 21, 2009 01:29 PM

cuppuchinochk you must be sick. How can you say sodom and gomorah never happened. you are an infidel without religion, an immoral gay who see the dark side only. God will curse you for this.these two are not african anymore cause this filthy behaviour do not belong to us. Next we will have gay pastors to lead sermons and bless our children in kenya. What do you say about that.

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Submitted by lunel
Posted oktober 21, 2009 11:22 AM

Intolerance is the root of all evil… What’s the difference the right wing kenyans and Nick Griffin? Black african and gay? BNP will have a field day

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Submitted by hremix
Posted oktober 21, 2009 10:45 AM

seems like men kenyan men folk are loosing it,underage encounters,rape now gay marriages ,wonder what else is on the menu,Muumba atusaidie tujisaidie.

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Submitted by nakun
Posted oktober 21, 2009 10:37 AM

so Chege is nolonger “anile” he’s lost his “anity” as our sisters loose thier virginity. pole sana

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Submitted by kasarani
Posted oktober 21, 2009 08:54 AM

If this is what two adults have then l can only wish them the very best atleast they have come out and potrayed there genuiness where are our Bickering Damn Leaders?

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Submitted by imani
Posted oktober 21, 2009 08:12 AM

Kivuitu and other goons in Kenya have committed some of the worst atrocities against Kenyans. The only ‘crime’ these two have is being joined together in marriage. I think the anger I see here has been totally misplaced. Let us go after the real crooks in Kenya.

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Submitted by upanda
Posted oktober 21, 2009 07:14 AM

doctors help me:where does the sperms go to when gay perform sex coz a woman was created to absorb.if this is not crazy then Oxford press should do more dictionary research on the word MAD

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Submitted by cappuchinochk
Posted oktober 21, 2009 05:51 AM

Sodom and Gromorrah never happened. It was just a story. If it was tru then Lot had sex with his daughters(incest) in order to repopulate the worls. Which is worse two consenting men choosing to be together. Or a father sleeping with his own daughters? But, this is Kenya, where sex is Taboo, until one can feel righteous. Also, didnt the ARabs sell Africans, who were not muslim,to the white man. The same white man who brought christianity to colonize, rape, and exploit the African?

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Submitted by padomems
Posted oktober 21, 2009 03:37 AM

homosexuality is a creation of mind which abuses the purpose of sex and that is why senseless animals never dare practice it.humans are trying to become worse than any other creature yet they are supposed to take care of the creation. GOD FORBID!!!

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Submitted by alfotula
Posted oktober 21, 2009 02:59 AM

Now let him take his bride to his rural home for introduction to the family.

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Submitted by makinionne
Posted oktober 21, 2009 02:31 AM

l wish you two the best in life,only God will judge us,Kenyans its time we accepted our gay and lesbian brothers and sisters,we should be tolerate of other peoples lifestyle.

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Submitted by kaviti
Posted oktober 21, 2009 01:54 AM

How selfish of Charles and Daniel. If not for their homosexuality Africa would be a modern day Europe! Aaaaah!

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Submitted by twain
Posted oktober 21, 2009 01:37 AM

God bless you for your bravado. I am a gay Kenyan living in Westlands, Nairobi and is scared of coming out. My immediate family knows it and they embrace me as I am. Thank you for being yourselves and I wish you a happy life together.

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Submitted by laduqesa
Posted oktober 21, 2009 01:18 AM

“Submitted by Gierse These two men are totally out of their mind,its a shame for the African continent” So, do you think that sexual relations between men have never occured in Africa before? Are you really that naive? And why are they “out of their mind”? They are doing what they want, so they can be happy, which is everyone’s right. Good for them and bad for Kenya that religious fairy tales have such a hold that they can stop such a wonderful thing happening there.

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Submitted by jacmuchie
Posted oktober 21, 2009 01:03 AM

I don’t believe in homosexuality…..To me this is a ‘lifestyle’ that has quietly developed over time. But at least i believe in the Bible. Remember Sodom and Gomora? I have a feeling we are soon headed there.

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Submitted by jiwadove
Posted oktober 21, 2009 12:03 AM

I am worried about the little boys who are going to be recruited or inspired by these two males. HIV came to Africa from the west. Right now we cannot even contain it. Homosexuality came from the west, we are busy copying this lifestyle. The catastrophy this will bring to Africa will be of untold proportion. You all can support this lifestyle as much as you want but when your son, brother or relative become one of them, we will have a diffent way of looking at it.

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Submitted by flexy832003
Posted oktober 20, 2009 10:37 PM

…am intrigued!The fact that 150+ people have had a comment.From the tone, i went to imagine that soon this will spill over to the streets…its just a matter of time before Kenyan gay community gets tired of being discriminated by sexually insecure and phobic Kenyan. GAY.I am a patriotic proudly gay Kenyan living in Germany.Am not really in the closet and there the name Gay is not written on my face. I live a normal life n maybe one day I will be your doctor! so exit-escapism enter-reality!

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Submitted by chegestory
Posted oktober 20, 2009 09:44 PM

ok

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Submitted by tusker78
Posted oktober 20, 2009 08:57 PM

Homosexuality is neither a disease or a mental illness but a complex set of factors made up of genes.Homosexuality is a normal variant of human sexuality.Who are these people claiming it is unafrican its been known since the dawn of civilisation.

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Submitted by Gierse
Posted oktober 20, 2009 08:44 PM

These two men are totally out of their mind,its a shame for the African continent.

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Submitted by wakuria
Posted oktober 20, 2009 08:13 PM

Close minded hypocrites is what many Kenyans are. I love the ‘un-African’ comments. What is African behaviour? Molesting kids, beating your wife, shagging anything that moves, killing albinos/witches/thieves, corruption? You never hear of that crap being condemned as un-African but God forbid that two dudes get it on… I don’t approve of homosexuality but it’s really none of my business, is it?

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Submitted by KGacuca
Posted oktober 20, 2009 07:06 PM

There are still IDPs, all sorts of hunger and poverty issues in Kenya, Ruto a known war criminal walking free, and Kenya facing a potential Rwanda in 2012 because our leaders refused to face up to the issues of the last post election turmoil, and all these comments about two people going about their personal business! Kenyans we have a really really really long way to go. It saddens me, but at least I left many years ago, and don’t have to face this ignorance in my day to day living.

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Submitted by MbureMacharia
Posted oktober 20, 2009 06:21 PM

Homosexuality was a sign of intellectual and societal peaking in the ancient world, hence people like Alexander the Great, Poppaea Sabina, the Greeks, etc got involved in it. We all know what happened to those civilizations. Perhaps it would be accurate from the preceding occurrences that this society too has reached its zenith and a renewal awaits? For to me there is nothing immediately alarming or altogether novel about this, it’s just what the world knows to do best happening, repeat the same mistakes hoping for a different outcome, an anecdotal yet principal definition of madness.

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Submitted by terrianah
Posted oktober 20, 2009 06:07 PM

Are they both adults? Were they forced? Does their union cause harm to anyone? Then I suggest the bigots should lay off!

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Submitted by dmugo
Posted oktober 20, 2009 05:05 PM

If this behaviour/culture is not repugnant, what is then repugnant? Where are all the European missionaries and their kenyan agents who have been preaching against our rites of passage as repuganant? Is this what they are replacing our “bad” culture with? thank you.

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Submitted by oiseaubleu
Posted oktober 20, 2009 04:46 PM

147 comments, this is the highest comment count i have seen in the DN so far!

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Submitted by bwaweru20
Posted oktober 20, 2009 04:31 PM

Congrats 2 them, each 2 their own, they ll hav 2 answer only 2 tha Almighty. Secondly where was ma invite??

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Submitted by jiwadove
Posted oktober 20, 2009 04:28 PM

All those who are talking about homophobic, would any of you allow these two people near your son or your little brother? Think about what they do in their private moments.What gays do is more than satanic.

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Submitted by naliweliwalo
Posted oktober 20, 2009 03:37 PM

bride Daniel Chege Gichia is cuter than Semenya!

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Submitted by nngoru
Posted oktober 20, 2009 02:52 PM

Oh my God where are we headed.Is the end of the world fast appraoaching?

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Submitted by mtumzzito
Posted oktober 20, 2009 02:08 PM

@ tush22….wat does a kenyan gay marrying got to do with the hague?????? God made the ‘back’ highway a one way lane…OUT… simply put, it is disgusting rotten behaviour. even pigs dont behave that way…NKT!

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Submitted by maliha001@yahoo.com
Posted oktober 20, 2009 01:13 PM

All those supporting these two are not straight, they are either gays or lesbians. this is against christinity, islam and every know religion or African cultures. They should not be allowed back to Kenya as our laws are against it

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Submitted by Misstinda
Posted oktober 20, 2009 01:12 PM

No wonder many Kenyan married men have gone all the way to doing young gay men because they want to satisfy the fantasies their wives can not.What does that say about our society? We are full of Hypocritical people who pretend to be moral and blah blah blah.

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Submitted by Misstinda
Posted oktober 20, 2009 12:21 PM

I really don’t understand why Kenyans are making a big fuss about the Gay couple that was on the papers; I believe that people should be given a chance and the right to choose their own sexuality….. So it is plain silly and ignorant for anyone to be mad about someone Else’s sexuality….period; If a tree makes me Happier than any man….. why can’t I marry it?

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Submitted by tush 22
Posted oktober 20, 2009 12:03 PM

Why are we all so quick to quote the bible? There are some who do not have any religious inclinations, what do we quote to them? Leave the guys in peace, nothing wrong with their life choices. Go vent instead to the politicians!! OYANGOFREDé: You shd join the Hague team, i bet you did commit hineous crimes in 2007!! Guys like you are the ones we should be spewing anger and hatred on, because with pea-brained people like you, we have no chance in 2012!

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Submitted by 69ers
Posted oktober 20, 2009 11:50 AM

What are Kenyans yappering about??? Cant we use this energy to focus on issues like hunger, crime, employment, corruption and the list is endless that concern us Kenyans as individuals in Kenya?? These people have wed and not even in Kenya..leave them alone and focus on your own issues!!

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Submitted by iko711
Posted oktober 20, 2009 10:03 AM

How comes the ‘bride’ always want to look like a woman and yet the groom claims to hate women? Why should your partner look like what you hate so much? These guys are mad

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Submitted by jakimamo
Posted oktober 20, 2009 09:46 AM

@vgogero The fact that some over you actually believe Sodom and Gomorrah actually happened. which means you actually believe in Noah and his ark. It tells all about you as a person. Why does someone elses life bring some much hate in people and to answer someone else question, yes they have found gay animals.

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Submitted by machiavelli
Posted oktober 20, 2009 09:37 AM

Nothing to celebrate!! This two have just made the wrong choice and brought shame to their families, friends and the Kenyan community at large. They are a disgrace and can’t be proud of them.

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Submitted by JonBforever
Posted oktober 20, 2009 07:56 AM

After all God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve! LOL.

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Submitted by ombwengi
Posted oktober 20, 2009 07:13 AM

Mwanaume gani angependa kulala na mwanaume mwingine kama akili yake ni nzuri. We are following the western culture blindly and foolishly. In America where gay marriage is allowed in some states, the majority of the people detest it and consider it a disgrace. I know it is a shame for the parents of those two young men.It is a bad example that you will never want any child to imitate.Your parents sent you abroad to better your lives not to ashame them.If you were my brother I will forget about you.

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Submitted by lemuelmwas
Posted oktober 20, 2009 06:45 AM

If they call themselves Kenyans, I might as well detach myself, not to be named among the unthinkable ones.

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Submitted by nyasgwa
Posted oktober 20, 2009 05:51 AM

Make sure no cheating.

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Submitted by kabutil
Posted oktober 20, 2009 02:39 AM

It aint cool to be gay coz it aint cool to be sick. This two dudes are sick. They should go to hell with their insanity!!!

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Submitted by vommwa
Posted oktober 20, 2009 02:25 AM

Hypocrites! We never see Kenyans complaining about the murderous politicians who steal for national coffers at the expense of the lives of the starving family in turkana, or the crime victims who didn’t get help because of a lack of resources by the police. Un-African??? Mwache upuuzi na ujinga, kwani wife-beating na tribal animosity ni African? Let’s use the same yard stick guys, and lety the newly weds enjoy their matrimonial bliss in peace. Pilipili usioila yakuwashia nini?

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Submitted by kenyamoja99
Posted oktober 20, 2009 01:36 AM

As it has been said before we have much bigger ills in this country. We worship tribalist war mongers, admire corruption, hate each others because tribes, rape and crime are rampant etc. And here we are spitting fire about what 2 adults do in their bedrooms.Who among us wouldnt steal a mobile or wallet ikikaa vibaya?

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Submitted by ELEZATENA
Posted oktober 20, 2009 01:22 AM

This is a taboo. This thing should never be recognized in Kenya. Chances are that these men have been paid by gay activists to portray this thing as a thing that is a worldwide thing. All people who value human dignity ought to condemn and refrain from the gay thing

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Submitted by kathama
Posted oktober 20, 2009 01:17 AM

who is who now? wonders will never cease ,kenyans at far land causing ripples again ,who will wash dishes,i guess this is when the devorce proceedings will surface.

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Submitted by imbwa
Posted oktober 20, 2009 01:16 AM

They look so happy together!Most of us are font of judging others.Jesus said only God the father shall judge.In African culture we don’t talk about whom goes to bed with whom.Ngengi and Chege are our pride as they signify a tolerant and accomodating society.Viva Kenya

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Submitted by ogweny
Posted oktober 20, 2009 01:10 AM

Dont say two kenyan men; say two kikuyu men to pipoint where the rot is coming from.You are soiling the name of a whole nation for selfish (or should i say enterprising) drive a people well known.

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Submitted by jomomoikenya
Posted oktober 20, 2009 12:36 AM

I give you a stone-there is these gay couple on one side and the guys who torched a church building in Eldoret and killed innocent people on the other side;where will you cast your stone?

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Submitted by njeridiva
Posted oktober 20, 2009 12:36 AM

CONGRATULATIONS!i applaud your bravery in the face of extreme intolerance and myopia exhibited by some religious zealots and a minority of kenyans still clinging to backward traditions.a marriage is a marriage whether its same sex or not love is love.its about time that kenyans wised up and legalized same sex marriages.everyone deserves equal protection under the law.

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Submitted by evans1987
Posted oktober 20, 2009 12:10 AM

just cant believe this,haya ndio nasemanga ni malimwengu.lol!!!!!!!!!!maybe tumefikia mwisho wa dunia na mungu ako karibu kurudi.hawa wawili sio wakenya.

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Submitted by Mwiruti
Posted oktober 19, 2009 11:12 PM

100+ comments I guess now we have no choice but to change the defination of nuclear family to a unit that comprises 2 consenting adults with or without children or pets.Right?In as much as i do not supposed this orientation we have to accomodate this people instead of ostricizing them.They are our bro/sis.What a parent to do if one day your son comes and tells you at the diner table that …I think i am gay mom/dad? are you going to convince them otherwise?

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Submitted by kenmare69
Posted oktober 19, 2009 10:51 PM

The club of homophobic hecklers likes to run their mouth on the argument that homosexuality is a sin forbidden by God; but you’ll hardly hear them ranting as much regarding pedophilia or other wired s**t like screwing a cadaver in ceremonial rites. Many gays and lesbians in the community I live in are upright citizens, some of whom are doctors, engineers, architects, and, yes, even priests — all serving their community devotedly. Should they be killed too? All this hoo ha that moralists like to create around homosexuality is yet another loud gong they’re sounding to announce their irrelevance.

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Submitted by asaid7
Posted oktober 19, 2009 10:51 PM

People! what’s a big deal? Those two gay dudes have done you no wrong. Please lets focus on the politians Kibaki, Raila and Co. who have made our lives so hard at our own expenses!

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Submitted by Kollosh
Posted oktober 19, 2009 10:26 PM

Lets see just how homophobic Kenyans are. Let the two enjoy their lives. Why would anyone be ashamed to be Kenyan? These two have done nothing to affect your Kenyan-ness. NjeriKaranja, I agree with you. There are so many other things we should be outraged at other than two consenting adults exercising their rights and freedoms.

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Submitted by flopfeiffer
Posted oktober 19, 2009 10:24 PM

Stop the holier than Thou altitude.None of your ASS is involved.Only someone going through something knows how it feels. Just bcoz you can’t do it does not give you the right to wrong those who are in that predicament.For those quoting the Bible..you are questioning God for making them that way..maybe you should be sending your comments to HIM.

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Submitted by seinium
Posted oktober 19, 2009 09:39 PM

And again, congrats to couple.

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Submitted by mrssoandso
Posted oktober 19, 2009 09:10 PM

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!Rather than castigate those we deem different from us, we should embrace them.Didn’t God ask us to love one another?

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Submitted by frysasken
Posted oktober 19, 2009 07:59 PM

God created man with 2 output-only media. A woman with 1 input/output and another output-only. So when you get 2 men getting married, i would think, 1 output medium will be directed into another output medium where it may end up in what Kibaki likes to call maavi ya binadamu sorry, kuku!

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Submitted by flkiranga
Posted oktober 19, 2009 07:55 PM

In his book ‘Facing Mt. Kenya’Mzee Jomo Kenyatta never mentioned same sex marriage, neither as a Kikuyu or Afican Culture. It is times like these when I miss him. He would have told them point blank not to set foot in Kenya and instead remain in their adopted Country.Kenyans neither eat snakes nor dogs and hence cannot be forced to do that.God save Kenya

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Submitted by jon2xx4
Posted oktober 19, 2009 07:52 PM

Soon, marrying any animal of your choice will be legal…then afew years down the line, a kenyan in London will marry a dog..LOL. Folks, its downhill all the way from this generation.

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Submitted by Sleezysly
Posted oktober 19, 2009 07:39 PM

What are you all talking about like you are saints! And what did these two men do to you? Did they ask your hand in marriage, kill,rape, steal, rob or deprive you of anything by being gay? I do not think so! So quit all this nonsense about unKenyan…in the first place go contemplate about what being Kenyan is! Sort out all those tribal issues going on in your head for a start.. And next time you feel like farting please do so..you’ll be far much ahead of the game..

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Submitted by Kenya_Imwe
Posted oktober 19, 2009 07:27 PM

Oh irony of all ironies Africans quoting the bible to decry neocolonialism.

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Submitted by MugambiEric
Posted oktober 19, 2009 07:10 PM

OUTRAGEOUS!!

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Submitted by gthiga
Posted oktober 19, 2009 06:59 PM

Amazed @ how most people are realistic about their comments, I still wonder @ those who sound so bitter about this, isn’t your energy better spent at other activities ?

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Submitted by fbw
Posted oktober 19, 2009 06:52 PM

The one thing I do not seem to understand is that why do these ’social misfits’ who think they are attracked to men are actually attracked to men who act, dress, talk, wear make up++++ I mean women wonna be’s. If they are really attracted to men then they should go for the raged bearded men and not have the ‘queens’ put on dresses, make up+++ You disgrace our true African QUEENS. Gross Gross!!!

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Submitted by mtotompole
Posted oktober 19, 2009 06:46 PM

And the two evil men shall die and that shall mark the end of their evil lineage. For the bride, remember to have your penis cut, you do not need it. For Ngengi, dig deep into the feaces, is known to be good fertilizer your penis might grow long and healthy.

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Submitted by Nandi Kaburwo
Posted oktober 19, 2009 06:14 PM

Whereas my position on this is just that, personal, I think it is disingenious to claim this act as unAfrican. In my language we have no word for ‘virus’ or ‘bacteria’. Simply because they were unknown. However, show me that your mother tongue has no word for man-sleep-with-man. If none, then it’s surely unYour culture. Otherwise, this thing is as much Kenyan as western, albeit hidden in Kenya. Quote the Bible? It talks of it. Why?

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Submitted by MaganaBpo
Posted oktober 19, 2009 06:05 PM

‘Bride’ Chege appears beautiful and feminine perhaps because a shot of Botox has softened up the vertical lines on his face, and given him the sickening smooth feminine look that you now see on the picture. Botox, the chemical that the ‘bride’ has used to ‘press’ his hair and homosexuality all came with the white man. But, what is most important is that medical consequences await Botox addicts, while the lessies and homos face the prospects of spending an eternity in hell. Kenya should have nothing to do with such callous, child-endangering,godless white man’s laws.

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Submitted by wangeci40
Posted oktober 19, 2009 05:57 PM

Guys, Congratulations! There will always be pioneers. You have simply come out and done what many other Kenyans would want to do but dare not do due to stigma. I wish you strength and all the best in your lives together.

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Submitted by njerikaranja
Posted oktober 19, 2009 05:42 PM

Wow! Over 100 comments on two consenting adults exercising their right to chose but hardly the same zeal when it comes to pedophilia, incest, adultery, wife inheritance, domestic violence. Or are these acceptable “african” vices?

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Submitted by zubeda41
Posted oktober 19, 2009 04:55 PM

Mungu atusaidia sisi binadamu ulimwenguni.Staqhaful-Lahi Laathim.Anyways if that’s what Mke na Mumewe have decided then we society have to accept their decision.Sasa nani ata mwendeya “SHOSHO mtoni kumtafutia maji.

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Submitted by lilkeke
Posted oktober 19, 2009 04:30 PM

these two folks pretty much have jobs, paying bills and hopefully living good unlike many kenyans who are squeezing in a cyber cafe after tarmaking the whole day and all they can do is hate on the couple. lets get realistic guys. maybe one of the two will employ you in the future.

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Submitted by lyn14141414
Posted oktober 19, 2009 02:56 PM

Haile, good question of how do they determine who should be the man and woman respectively…..unfortunately i cant answer but woulkd suggest a debate/live talk show on our kenyan tv so that we can air these questions. However, my wish has always to know the bed games that take place…ouch sorry for going there!!! Anyway, those askign about children, most of these guys are never interested in having kids, for the few who do, they will simply adopt or donate their spermatozoa to some woman to concieve and carry the babY!!

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Submitted by glory74
Posted oktober 19, 2009 01:28 PM

kenyans are hypocrites.They are very quick to condemn homosexuality as a detestable sin and immorality, yet we keep seeing and engaging in fornication and adultery, which belongs to the same category,but am yet to see the two vices get as much heat as the former. let’s come out clean guys,none of them is alesser evil. they are all immoral and sinful.Actually,adultery could be more immoral coz it could break marital homes.

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Submitted by dkenyaz
Posted oktober 19, 2009 01:24 PM

These are handsome kikuyu males, but confussed. They will be tampering with each other’s exhaust pipes, this part of the body is meant to excrete and not to receive, they are in for very deadly dieases such as the Cancer of the anus among many others. Disgusting.

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Submitted by smukoma
Posted oktober 19, 2009 12:53 PM

Have you ever heard homosexual animals. Human beings are going beyond animal sanity. It is outrageous to see Chege and Ngegi smiling as ‘husband’ and ‘wife’. this is not African and at worst it is not human. And should never be accepted in the African soil. It should be condemned with unspeakable and unprintable words.

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Submitted by samgaita
Posted oktober 19, 2009 12:47 PM

Wow..there was Nairobi gay community in 2000??

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Submitted by vgogero
Posted oktober 19, 2009 12:21 PM

Are the two of sound mind and do they know why Sodom and Gommorah were destroyed by fire and brimstone rain .The same fate will befall all those who take part in such evil acts Which are against natural law and morality

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Submitted by gathoni
Posted oktober 19, 2009 12:16 PM

The Family is what makes up a society – a Country is made up of many families together. If the family system rots and we cannot distinguish right from wrong then society is in danger..

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Submitted by tusker78
Posted oktober 19, 2009 12:14 PM

so many gays in kenya..stop pretending.your hypocrites. it seems ok for your men to sleep with barelylegal aged girls and malias,but if two people are happy and love each other,why should’nt they commit to each other.

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Submitted by ntamba
Posted oktober 19, 2009 12:06 PM

We may ridicule these sons of ours. What they need is pity. Homosexuality is a mental illness. It used to classified as a psychiatric illness until they removed it when it became a popular culture in the west. I still maintain it is a mental disease and these people need treatment.

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Submitted by teq
Posted oktober 19, 2009 11:58 AM

Wow!!if only we took matters of nationalimportance with the same gusto! Well for those taking the moral high ground, i would say the same bible you are quoting says thou shall not judge. Remember the story of Jesus and Marymagdaline?? Think its time to do some introspection. Have a thoughtfull day.

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Submitted by atieno1234
Posted oktober 19, 2009 11:55 AM

For heavens sake, why was this story published ? Our children will think its “cool” to be gay, Kwa sababu sisi kama wanakenya tunafikiria kila kitu inafanyika “majuu” as the young generation call it is cool. Word of correction their is no husband or wife in same sex marriages, they become civil partners.

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Submitted by Tolfo
Posted oktober 19, 2009 11:40 AM

edwinsifuna, You got it very right. The biggest sickness in kenya is dwelling on petty issues like homosexuality while corruption, ethnicity and arrogance are far much bigger problems.

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Submitted by Muigaieddy
Posted oktober 19, 2009 11:36 AM

It is such a pity that someone will tell us that this in American is the order of the day n hence Kenyan should embrace it!!!…this is highest level of neo-colonialism of our minds,why can’t we be pround of our culture n stop aping other…i wonder if you stayed there longer what you would also tell us to ape n pls stop this phase n “live n let live” nobody is after you but do justify a wrong because two wrongs have never made a right!!!

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Submitted by popq
Posted oktober 19, 2009 11:34 AM

Kenyans acting holy than thou as usual. Meanwhile in Kisii a whole family was brutally set on fire as “witches” because a boy had epilepsy and couldn’t talk and the mob said the family had bewitched them. Theft of public resources, tribalism, PEV is 500 times worse than these daily occurrences.

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Submitted by rofi
Posted oktober 19, 2009 11:20 AM

Onyangofred, human beings are animals, but why are you so angry with Central Province? Does the province in any way pause a threat to your plans and ambitions? I think too much is being made of this ‘wedding.’ Our hands are full; HIV/AIDS, hunger, disease, lack of water, power cuts,threats from bandits etc, etc.

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Submitted by Jarawilandong
Posted oktober 19, 2009 11:02 AM

Just stay forever in that white man’s land where you ape and think anything white is good. Was God mad to creat opposite sexes with the organs well curved to suit the adaptability. Human race in under threat because of mad ideology from these ‘dirty whites’Keep all those in Europe

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Submitted by physics
Posted oktober 19, 2009 10:46 AM

Had to be Chege and Ngegi…..No comment sir….. Ha ha ha haaaaaa

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Submitted by motumer
Posted oktober 19, 2009 10:45 AM

AAAHHUUUUUHHWWWIIIIHH!!!!!!!

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Submitted by shene
Posted oktober 19, 2009 10:35 AM

ahahahahaha… boys n girls.. Gay Rights are here to stay in as much aswe cant like them they are here and they stayin put. Wish you beautiful people a happy marriage life. :)

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Submitted by nyasinski
Posted oktober 19, 2009 10:14 AM

Look at them smiling..shame on them,let them not step on kenyan soil coz we will cane them real hard and let them rot in kamiti proson… shame on you..u look very disgusting and u only ashame your families.. I will personally stone

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Submitted by onyangofred2
Posted oktober 19, 2009 10:13 AM

Like I’d earlier commented, “Central Province” is full of “animals”, not “human beings.”

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Submitted by mak
Posted oktober 19, 2009 09:46 AM

Live and let live; who are you to judge? That bible you quote so freely has been used historically to fight wars, kill and maim all in the name of God.

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Submitted by paulineswagi
Posted oktober 19, 2009 09:31 AM

Gay people have a right to live their lives the way they choose to. It is not up to anybody to tell them its wrong but their own conscience. I am not advocating for gayism but we must all learn to be tolerant of each other.”Live and let live.”

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Submitted by AliyevumA
Posted oktober 19, 2009 09:14 AM

Murang’a must be next to Gachie…wonders keep happening those sides…the other gay/chiq amenyoa punk must be sicker than the other gay/jamaa, who is ill in the head! we all sin…is this a sin?

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Submitted by ggithembe
Posted oktober 19, 2009 09:00 AM

“…and his bride…” Why do they designate one as bride and other as groom…and why does the “bride” actually look like a woman? Let’s face it…marriage is between a man and a woman whichever way you look at it.

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Submitted by edwinsifuna
Posted oktober 19, 2009 08:52 AM

I may not be exactly pro gay but i cant help but scoff at our own hypocrisy. these two guys are an easy target i guess. Im sure we are all a little weary of fighting the usual battles against bigger social ills like corruption and ethnicity. But those are truly “African” ills that we can live with aren’t they?

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Submitted by Rekebisho
Posted oktober 19, 2009 08:14 AM

You won’t go naked and we say its okey since you have not been corrupt. A wrong is a wrong nomatter how lesser or greatwer it seems. We are next to justify satan as a good being. Deep inside, they feel the guilt. I wonder what their families are saying??? Hope they were invited for the big wedding.

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Submitted by kyukiti
Posted oktober 19, 2009 07:03 AM

Shame on you Kenyans…….kenya is known as a God fearing Nation. Where in the Bible did God creat a man for a man or a woman for another woman? Style up kenyans………… this is un- acceptable in the kenyan culture and in Gods kingdom. Who is who? Who is the husband and wife in this case? Murang’a people have you gone out of your senses to welcome that? I hope its just for makaratasi pekee. Are their parents dead or alive? My mom would get an heart attack to hear that i married another woman.

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Submitted by ndihona
Posted oktober 19, 2009 06:57 AM

Ati such a disgrace, ati they’ll be bring a curse to Kenya. Let me remind you people, these guys have not hurt anyone, that’s their life. If you forgot, disgrace was when Kenyans killed each other for politcs and thousands are dying of hunger, I guess we were cursed before Chege and Ngengi’s wedding.

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Submitted by wawerugithiri
Posted oktober 19, 2009 05:54 AM

BENEATH CONTEMPT!

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Submitted by agnes2003kenyan_keep
Posted oktober 19, 2009 05:43 AM

Leviticus 20:13 – “If a man lies with a man as one lies with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They must be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.

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Submitted by agusa2010
Posted oktober 19, 2009 04:58 AM

What i know for sure, is that Kenyans are more industrious and adventurous than, say, their Tanzanian or even Ugandan neighbors. I dare say, they are even more crafty!That’s why they are more likely to run away from imaginary political tormentors,fictitious battery etc. It’s been reported that it’s now ‘fashionable’ for Kenyan college kids to be gay.Anyway, congrats Ngengi and Chege!

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Submitted by kanyeki
Posted oktober 19, 2009 04:21 AM

I like the way when people are quick to judge they quote the bible. I wonder if they use the same analogy on themselves. 44 comments for a same sex marriage to 2 comments for a man hacking an ex-lover to death. Where are we drawing the line?

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Submitted by alfotula
Posted oktober 19, 2009 03:46 AM

What is the moral of this article? Why is this news? people marry every day and they are not reported in the media. Are you encouraging our children to get into such arrangements?

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Submitted by shaddyo
Posted oktober 19, 2009 03:36 AM

Thank God they are not in the Kenyan soil!! its lack of human Dignity and Respect

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Submitted by werssylwer
Posted oktober 19, 2009 01:31 AM

If only we could direct this anger against our tribalist “leaders” who masterminded the killings of thousands of fellow kenyans, sold reserve foodstocks to southern sudan while people are starving, imported contaminated food for kenyans…etc

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Submitted by lemuelmwas
Posted oktober 19, 2009 01:20 AM

It has become obvious that Kenya is now the latest victim of the immorality disease. And with top Kenyan government officials possing for a photo with the couple, where else do we turn top. GOD forbid.

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Submitted by kris
Posted oktober 19, 2009 01:19 AM

Death to them infidels! I wish they rot in hell! They should be stoned to death. They are devils own children.

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Submitted by olegaita66
Posted oktober 19, 2009 01:18 AM

This is unacceptable,it is pollution of normal human behavior and am not against it if it is not exposed for us to see.The danger is that we have weak minded Kenyans who may wonna try it thinking it is a cool thing since white ppl do it.

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Submitted by gathoni
Posted oktober 19, 2009 01:08 AM

….could be they did this to get papers, but whatever happens, they shouldn´t “do it” and dishonour their manhood..

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Submitted by jaukakathevillager
Posted oktober 19, 2009 12:48 AM

Pray for them. Maybe they missed their biology lessons!

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Submitted by khajiga
Posted oktober 19, 2009 12:09 AM

While I’m not out to say that I’m perfect, this behavior is absurd, barbaric and evil.When God created man he made a wife for him by the name of EVE.If God saw that Adam needed STEVE, He could have given him.The Bible clearly states that a man shall leave his parents and the woman likewise and cleave together to become one flesh. That brings God’s completeness in man,the gay equation only brings uncompletedness and abomination to the eyes of God and man.

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Submitted by juina
Posted oktober 18, 2009 11:44 PM

From the recent SA 800m female world championship scandal, I understand that some of these people have both male and female organs, ie both testicles and ovaries… both a vagina and a clitoris that can function as a penis. So one may be brought up as a man, but the ovaries would be pumping oestrogen. Kikuyu language does not the equivalent word for gay. Robert Mugabe always bans gay people from participating in the annual Harare book fair, saying that they are worse than dogs and pigs…

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Submitted by miwanyu
Posted oktober 18, 2009 11:28 PM

Y all the hatred? 50years ago thats what was said of black people. Consequently we learnt to hate ourselves. They would say we were dark because we were devils minions years later we are the one’s discriminating. Do you think they will love you more because you are against gays? Think again.

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Submitted by muthuri80
Posted oktober 18, 2009 11:01 PM

Surely wakenya wenzangu, how holly are you all? I remember my swahili teacher used to tell us “nyani haoni kundule” Some of us have got crazy culture, wife inheritance, sleeping with the dead b4 they are burried multiple wives etc etc.How comes there is no shindwe on that?

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Submitted by NativeSon
Posted oktober 18, 2009 10:14 PM

Yesu Mwana Wa Maria tuiguire tha.

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Submitted by mza
Posted oktober 18, 2009 10:09 PM

I am suspicious of the publicity sorounding this story. Especially the role played by Chege’s former ‘husband’ and the gay community in London. Remember gays are very good at projecting events like this to partray their way of life as mainstream. But even in the UK, they still remain a small minority albeit a very loud one!

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Submitted by betterkenya
Posted oktober 18, 2009 10:05 PM

After going through almost every posted comment about this article. Am able to tell those who have had a chance to intermingle with western community and those who have not. Gaysim and lesbiansim here in U.S. is like a toodler with a cellphone, no one sees it a big deal. I wish there is no Mungiki in Kenya, you will be surprised how many incideces will arise. good time boys.

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Submitted by twain
Posted oktober 18, 2009 10:03 PM

These guys are exercising their God given rights. Rights that they have been denied in KENYA. So nobody dare talk ill about them. Look at yourself first before you curse anyone. Remember the swahili saying “Nyani haoni kundule”

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Submitted by argus
Posted oktober 18, 2009 09:44 PM

The word ‘unafrican’ in this context is a joke. If we have to be honest about getting rid of all things unafrican I would suggest that we begin with the Bible and Koran which are quite unafrican and have formed the basis for a lot of this hate and needless wars. The same people who are crying out to God here are the very same people who whispered evil and stood ready to carry pangas against their own neighbours on the basis of tribe. Kenyans ought to be ashamed of their hypocrisy and applaud these two for their sincerity

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Submitted by ufuska
Posted oktober 18, 2009 08:52 PM

thats against the African tradition and neither christanity,islam or any other religion supports what they are doing.shame on them.

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Submitted by KinyuaOhiambo
Posted oktober 18, 2009 08:34 PM

Mngeungana hivi kupigana na Ukabila na ujinga wa kutumiwa na wanasiasa Kenya ingekuwa mbali.

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Submitted by issas
Posted oktober 18, 2009 08:29 PM

Do you think gay people will last? Since they cannot reproduce, their tiny population will decimate itself. It happened in the past and it will happen again. Beware of the decadence of “modern” society!

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Submitted by estee2005
Posted oktober 18, 2009 08:21 PM

Who are we to make Judgements of two people who love each other?I wish them all the best in life and lots of happiness in there future together.

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Submitted by wagathungu22
Posted oktober 18, 2009 07:30 PM

Those who feel that they are too pure at heart and in their deeds should open their mouths to criticize these two people of God.So what if they are gay? Or is this the issue of what is the lesser evil?? From what i gather, they are only gay. They havent stolen your money, they havent rooted your countries resources, they dont rob your families or even kill. People get real and try to grow up..the world has moved on.

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Submitted by bog
Posted oktober 18, 2009 07:28 PM

woi!yesu arudi

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Submitted by KangemiObserver
Posted oktober 18, 2009 07:01 PM

I wish them a happy life to live as they wish. Kenyans are living in denial. Gays are among us – they could be your sister, brother or even close friend that you don’t know about.

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Submitted by tunes2006
Posted oktober 18, 2009 06:53 PM

Kenyans are a pretentious lot!As much as i disagree with what this two guys have done we have no choice but to accept that this could be the future for some people,the brits fought it in the early 50’s 60’s untill they accepted it..its now the norm-Wakenya Mta do?

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Submitted by kiingerald
Posted oktober 18, 2009 06:35 PM

For those of us who have worked in the vehicle assembly sector, the minimum irreversible requirement regardless of race and culture is to know which part fits where! Nursing and fruit kiosk may have denied these two people that joinery advantage. However we are all guilty for plenty of offenses and I wish we would labour to change in a personal scale and leave God to judge in fairness.

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Submitted by mzee_moja
Posted oktober 18, 2009 06:00 PM

Nini hii! Am disgusted. We have very cute Kenyan gals in the UK, what went wrong. Hawa wajamaa hawatambui vya mbele jameni! Pepo mbaya hii. Anyway are we expecting kids here??

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Submitted by levubu
Posted oktober 18, 2009 05:26 PM

While I hate this, it’s a reality we must accept. Although this is un African, unnatural, against the Bible, Quaran and Hindu scriptures I hate the curses that go out here. Some of us have done worse things including killing, rape, exploitation, and all sorts of evils yet we are ready to curse two people who have not infringed on anybody’s rights. I can only pray that the Lord may change their lives to come out of this.

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Submitted by olekanyatta04
Posted oktober 18, 2009 05:25 PM

Ishidwe. Yesu forgive them and show them your light!

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Submitted by feswaldawood
Posted oktober 18, 2009 04:54 PM

laana ya Mola on these majamaas.

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Submitted by mzewangoma
Posted oktober 18, 2009 04:06 PM

True,these guys ddnt choose to be born gay.And it’s 100 times better to be gay than to be corrupt which creates suffering,or pedophile,molester or to know that your blood is not clean and you still go make love without protection and infect many other people.These are the most evil things!!

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Submitted by manmanu
Posted oktober 18, 2009 04:00 PM

Kenyans should wake up there are gay people amongst us and there are quite a big number but because of the stigma associated with it most are in the closet. Even though l totally disagree with man marrying a man l chose not to bury my head in the sand and believe that there are no gay kenyans as most of the people who are commenting here. By the way Homosexuality started even before Jesus was born remeber sodom and gomorrah? But this guys married for papers. Chege alitaka makaratasi

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Submitted by wuod_aketch
Posted oktober 18, 2009 03:47 PM

Poverty can drive people to unimaginable situations. After that the rot spreads in society.

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Submitted by Tolfo
Posted oktober 18, 2009 03:37 PM

What ever these guys are doing doesn’t create any suffering to any one in Kenya. Compared to many corrupt kenyans, these two guys are angels. May God bless them for their sincerity.

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Submitted by yesuwangu
Posted oktober 18, 2009 03:18 PM

Nation Daily find out what the married men parents have to say upon their childrens.I have no comment

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Submitted by chaguolangu
Posted oktober 18, 2009 03:15 PM

Hizo ni MAKARATASI to from the other guy,let´s give them 3yrs. Feel ashamed as a Kenyan we are people with culture and dignity why bring all this rubbish thank God they arent in Kenyan soil

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Submitted by kanyeki
Posted oktober 18, 2009 02:56 PM

Wow it is amazing for a person who is normally discriminated against for being black can have the audacity to discriminate against someone for their sexual preference. Nobody chooses to be born black or gay. What gets me is a homophobic black or a racist gay person, we are minorities and any sort of discrimination is bad so think before you judge. Tujengeni taifa kwanza na tuwache chuki, wacha watu wapendane.

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Submitted by flexy832003
Posted oktober 18, 2009 02:47 PM

Don’t discriminate on gays, that’s just like racism! This is a real world, its who they are and they didn’t apply to be gay, they were born like so…don’t even put God in this…he created them too…for those taunting curses, what if ur son were gay, would you kill him…have a real day!

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Submitted by Leilagottridz
Posted oktober 18, 2009 02:19 PM

That is their choice. Let the guys enjoy their thutha.

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Submitted by jeff1
Posted oktober 18, 2009 02:01 PM

in such cases wapi mungiki..this is absurd and unacceptable..

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Submitted by michreon7
Posted oktober 18, 2009 02:00 PM

Lord have mercy…why did they have to be Kenyan?

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Submitted by jsalmin
Posted oktober 18, 2009 01:59 PM

This is disgusting!

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Submitted by pretty young thing
Posted oktober 18, 2009 01:49 PM

It is their life for goodness sake!Let he who is without sin cast the first stone!

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Submitted by NLGathosh
Posted oktober 18, 2009 01:46 PM

Finally!!!!! Chege and Charles i wish you all the best. You are such a lovely couple :-)

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Submitted by Shilavula
Posted oktober 18, 2009 01:09 PM

The honor they have done Kenya is sanitizing their evil acts in a foreign land. How I wished all lesbians and gays, would pack and leave Kenya to a land of their desire. This is a cursed lot. This would save us from what became of Sodom and Gomorrah.

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Submitted by Chiga2010
Posted oktober 18, 2009 01:03 PM

Absolutely progressive! Very progressive of you NMG! Now lets wait and see the homophobes pour out their vitriole. This should be an interesting week, we will drown in the vitriole!

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Submitted by g_smart81
Posted oktober 18, 2009 12:20 PM

Oh my goodness! Lord have mercy on us!

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Submitted by sirangara
Posted oktober 18, 2009 11:54 AM

Absolute perversion. And because of this, the judgment of God is surely and swiftly coming upon mankind. Take heed that you are not counted among such.

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Submitted by joshuatoni
Posted oktober 18, 2009 11:35 AM

Sick men…there is no biological explanation or any excuse for being gay..look for girls to date..you make me sick…

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Submitted by shadrack indakwa
Posted oktober 18, 2009 09:47 AM

thank God the rule does not apply to our beloved kenya

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Submitted by coldcase
Posted oktober 18, 2009 09:17 AM

Horrible! shame! outcasts!! Totally unafrican!! I wish I could lay my hands on their necks!!!

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Submitted by kevo3415
Posted oktober 18, 2009 08:48 AM

Oooh ma Gosh a wedding is between a man and a woman! are they going to give birth?

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Submitted by Jabalaulia
Posted oktober 18, 2009 08:40 AM

We might be net importers of everything but we do not have to import even rubbish!

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Submitted by Mukush
Posted oktober 18, 2009 08:02 AM

Those shady ass Kenyans in London know better than to hate on their fellow Kenyans, who happen to be gay.Considering they live in London- where being openly gay is normal. I think those people who hate on gays and use religion to condemn,aren’t brave enough to say they are actually gay. So what some people, a lot of people are gay!!!!!! including Kenyans, we just don’t acknowledge it . Besides, don’t they like have bills to pay or something, instead of hating? Congrats to the couple, but Nation, don’t use ‘bride’ next time two dudes get hitched!!!!!!!!!

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Submitted by ndinikimani
Posted oktober 18, 2009 07:40 AM

Surely, surely surely what is this???!!! May God forgive us all

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Submitted by Dkimanzi
Posted oktober 18, 2009 07:08 AM

I hope everyone that hates gays ends up having a homosexual child. I think that is the only way Kenyans will learn. I have experienced racism, which is nothing as brutal as gaybashing and I can say that it hurts, A LOT. Live and let live.

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Submitted by maliha001@yahoo.com
Posted oktober 18, 2009 06:02 AM

This a shame to kenyan community living in London. na muheshimiwa shitanda please tell us your status.

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Submitted by Joey2010
Posted oktober 18, 2009 05:43 AM

From Murang’a village to UK…then becoming gay. Well it would be adventurous if it was not too fake. I live in the west and it shocks me the extent to which Africans are willing to go to ape the west. Let’s face it, homosexuality is not African – and my take is that this is either about money or personal insecurities. God help us.

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Submitted by werssylwer
Posted oktober 18, 2009 02:05 AM

I dont know what to say.

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Submitted by nyasgwa
Posted oktober 18, 2009 12:14 AM

No comment. …and they lived happily forever thereafter!!!

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Submitted by pascalmose
Posted oktober 17, 2009 11:44 PM

such a disgrace to our country..!!

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Submitted by mwanoo1
Posted oktober 17, 2009 11:05 PM

congratulations to both of them and good luck. Your courage is admirable. Everyone has his own body and life to live and those saying it’s socially unacceptable and unnatural need to go back to school (good school for that matter). Sexuality is a very messy affair and never criticize homosexuals out of ignorance; first gain knowledge and then talk about it.

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Submitted by haile
Posted oktober 17, 2009 11:00 PM

na hiyo ni maendeleo.they should

Norway struggles a great deal to be recognised internationally and that happens everyday.

Sometimes when they want to be in the limelight, they dish out oil money to third world countries.

Attempt to live in Norway and then you will discover how many racists you will meet everyday. Neighbours do not talk to each other, ask people who live in flats, most of them do not even know their neighbour.

Many people want to get to Norway, yes the welfare is very good but having a high living standard is not enough when there are many racist roaming the streets.

The language will put newcomers off.

CE

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Submitted by vgogero
Posted September 25, 2009 01:15 PM

The buck stops with the President he should summon the AG and Mr Ringera and tell them how to work together .The AG could lend KACC some prosecution powers or even borrow some of its lawyers to handle graft cases

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Submitted by Frank2009
Posted September 25, 2009 01:10 PM

Changes in Kenya will only be brought about by Kenyans themselves. We have done it before. We can do it again. Let us stop waiting for foreigners to do our stuff for us (and even thanking them for it!). In any case, if we ordinary Kenyans are angels, from which planet did we import our leaders? That aid is useful is just A Feeling, it has and will never help ordinary Kenyans. US can block it for good.

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Submitted by maugo1234
Posted September 25, 2009 12:50 PM

Some of the people mentioned should be in jail if we had an effective AG and/or government. They always breathe fire and talk about bloodshed because they allegedly sponsored PEV, thousands died, more displaced and property destroyed. They haven’t been tried. I don’t care about them being banned. Should explain how women and children were burned in church or killed in Naivasha. Now watch – tribe is going to mobilized to defend them. Shame!

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Submitted by tunes2006
Posted September 25, 2009 12:33 PM

Kibaki and Raila dont really care about kenya,the blame lies squarely on both of them.

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Submitted by physics
Posted September 25, 2009 11:59 AM

Very good move indeed coz soon the other western nations will follow suit. I don’t know whether they will be taking a plane to Kibera and their wives will be going shopping to Muthurwa??? Name and shame them, they are responsible for the destruction of our country.

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Submitted by inwani
Posted September 25, 2009 11:50 AM

I think any encouragement from the friends of Kenya like this is welcome news. However, it would have been preferable to me if we cleaned our own house. The changes are for Kenya. Why must our leaders be threatened and cajoled into doing the right thing? That, I don’t understand. Call me naive.

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Submitted by OROWE
Posted September 25, 2009 10:28 AM

The main issue is not the travel ban but now we know who a blocking the reforms.They could have included the VP’s name as well coz the list is long.The only problem is that in future as we have separeted reformist from non reformist they will gang to fight reformist as they a many non reformist.Kenyans wake up

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Submitted by sikujamu
Posted September 25, 2009 09:07 AM

I don’t support MPs who block promising reforms but I just think US leaders are hypocrites. They have their own senators blocking the health reform which they claim will hugely benefit the public, but they turn around and see a very huge log in other pples eyes. Americans shd clean up their own mess b4 pointing fingers and threatening others. Kenyan leaders shd learn from this. Kenya can be fruitful without relying on these western bodies if only we used our resources wisely.

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Submitted by SJ502
Posted September 25, 2009 07:56 AM

The office of AG is biggest single hurdle that hinders swift and effective reforms! Fix that office and Kenya will be re-born, effortlessly!

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Submitted by peter mugambi
Posted September 25, 2009 06:29 AM

Whats wrong with our leaders? Must they be threatened or whipped to do what is right? And by the way does this country have a president? Where is he?No press conferences,no radio or Tv addressess.I thought the head of state should be out there rallying the people,inspiring them,motivating them,encouraging them,giving them hope and telling them where we are and where we are headed.Must we wait to be so shamefully prodded by foreigners like the US envoy or Kofi Annan?

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Submitted by mxjnprr
Posted September 25, 2009 03:00 AM

Wooi! Now we will find out if our leaders value a US visa more than they value our beloved Kenya!

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Submitted by mzungumweupe
Posted September 25, 2009 02:06 AM

As a United States Citizen, I am calling for Mr. Ranneberger to resign for interfering with the running of a sovereign country. “When the White man came to Kenya holding a Bible, he found us with our land. He told us to close our eyes to pray. When we opened our eyes after prayers, we were holding the Bible while he held our land…..” – Mzee Jomo Kenyatta

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Submitted by NaturalSceptic
Posted September 25, 2009 01:33 AM

2012 electioneering begins.. 1) under 5% of Kenya’s budget is foreign loans/aid that can easily be covered by China. 2) under ‘business as usual’ Father Kaiser’s killers went free. 3)Some people on the list make no sense.

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Submitted by mwangingamate
Posted September 25, 2009 01:11 AM

Assuming that we are living in a national park called earth, is United States the Mzima Springs where all animals need to hydrate? The signs are telling that just as Britain is no longer great so is the US nolonger the global beacon of prestige. A good sanction would be, US to clothe the people of Kangema or Kajiado central without consulting their Mps. Do we care what happend to Abacha’s cronies with the visa bans they got? What does that mean to Nigeria today? You cannot sting a greedy African politician with meaningless threats.

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Submitted by knjami
Posted September 25, 2009 01:08 AM

Is this not blackmail, arm twisting and corcion Mr Ambassadeur? I think these individuals have a right to choose what they want to do so long as they do not block any change. If they chose to oppose,it is democracy which your country stand for. One man’s meet is another’s poison.

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Submitted by hmburu
Posted September 25, 2009 12:58 AM

Hii ni ukoloni mamboleo. We ought to stop this, or we will continue to be servants of the western countries. Michael Ranneberger has taken over our parliament, if you disagree with him you get a travel warning. he is literally running the politics in Kenya. However how bad we are, we ought to find solutions within ourself. Remember everthing Michael does is to the interest of US and not Kenya.

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Submitted by ikiplagat
Posted September 25, 2009 12:53 AM

ship all of them to Borneo, lock them in a cafe and roll one big stone on it…we will live in peace

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Submitted by taskah
Posted September 25, 2009 12:47 AM

Are we a US colony,yes we need change but not at a gun point.What big of a help do we get from them and we know they do business with who they will benefit from but now we do with Asia and their anger is on that. hallo

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Submitted by london
Posted September 25, 2009 12:33 AM

President Kibaki should be included from that list !!!

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Submitted by nnjenga
Posted September 25, 2009 12:09 AM

I do appreciate US support to Kenya both economic and political, I am only worried that when such threats are issued to leaders, don’t you think they are left with no option other than to support a debate/vote as instructed by the said masters. Is this democracy that the US wants. The strong whip the weak – democracy!

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Submitted by bmjmureithi1
Posted September 25, 2009 12:05 AM

Why do I have this feeling that the US ambassador to Kenya sometimes just wakes up and gives his personal statements which he purports to emanate from the white House. Whereas I most of the times agree with his views, it’s good to sometimes draw the line between Ranneberger the person and Ranneberger the envoy. For instance, did he know that Rila was gonna meet Obama in New York on Thursday and what the two would discuss?

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Submitted by Isaya Baraza
Posted September 24, 2009 11:38 PM

Uhuru cannot influence Central Kenya masses, neither Franklin Bett in RV. Is this not a list in the secret envelop for PEV perptrators? Time will tell.

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Submitted by keynotes1972
Posted September 24, 2009 10:32 PM

Why is the kenyan reform tired to going USA? Is US heaven? Its less than 1/4 of the world population, We may need help in reforming our nation, but it has nothing to do with being good to America,Reforms must be about kenya for kenyans. Obama was elected by Americans,We elected our leaders, America stop demonizing our people,you have done that to muslims and middle East. we want reforms in our country but not American tailored reforms,But based on our african value en dignity. This Dictatorship is rediculous en humaliating.

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Submitted by LSKhalsa
Posted September 24, 2009 10:18 PM

well done!!! that’s what you call guts to reveal the enemies of our nation!!

It’s up to them to change it, don’t look anywhere else for answers. Your fate is in your own miserable hands.

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Submitted by migal
Posted September 08, 2009 04:34 PM

Same monkeys different forests. Like someone said, nice way to deflect attention from Ringera. Siku zako zawadia Mheshimiwa Kibaki!

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Submitted by umeme
Posted September 08, 2009 04:24 PM

The person who should have been fired first is Wako. Kibaki fight on corruption is now a big question mark even to people who gave him benefit of doubt.

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Submitted by daniel_kagiri
Posted September 08, 2009 04:19 PM

Thanks but no thanks. You still do not get it. Orange tree will bear oranges in all season no mangoes. Its about the conduct of the whole force. When you have monkeys walking in the streets with loaded guns you gat to look for a large grave yard. Another crazy move and sorry GENERAL ALI.

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Submitted by yaaalif
Posted September 08, 2009 04:18 PM

the Guy messed the Police force….now sent to plunder the Postal Corporation…..Kibaki,u r useless ineffective,coward leader.

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Submitted by Clifwere
Posted September 08, 2009 04:09 PM

A sack would have been smarter, why take him to another parastatal? It is like telling him, “you cannot mess anymore in the police force, but the postal corporation”.

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Submitted by charlesokola
Posted September 08, 2009 04:00 PM

Kibaki has yet again made a counter-effective move. He has simply moved a non effective personnel to an important institution. What does Ali know about running a Postal corporation?

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Submitted by charlesokola
Posted September 08, 2009 04:00 PM

Kibaki has yet again made a counter-effective move. He has simply moved a non effective personnel to an important institution. What does Ali know about running a Postal corporation?

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Submitted by charlesokola
Posted September 08, 2009 04:00 PM

Kibaki has yet again made a counter-effective move. He has simply moved a non effective personnel to an important institution. What does Ali know about running a Postal corporation?

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Submitted by charlesokola
Posted September 08, 2009 04:00 PM

Kibaki has yet again made a counter-effective move. He has simply moved a non effective personnel to an important institution. What does Ali know about running a Postal corporation?

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Submitted by maziwa_lala
Posted September 08, 2009 03:43 PM

Why the hell does the president choose an army man to oversee the post office? What does he know about running a post office? This is absolutely ridiculous

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Submitted by ethanwaita
Posted September 08, 2009 03:37 PM

Wile its good to see Ali leave the force, this is but a drop in the ocean in bringing down corruption.We need to see Ringera, Wako CJ, and all incompetent public officials, including ministers, all shown the door.

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Submitted by dankip
Posted September 08, 2009 03:25 PM

My goodness! How comes that there is nothing inspiring that our President can do? For what use is it to move Gen. Ali if he was still useful why not just let him go on? Kenya is in total sorry state because of these kinds of appointments. Why would one dream that Ali can do anything good at Posta when he knows that he is being moved because he is no longer useful?

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Submitted by ekmwangi
Posted September 08, 2009 03:13 PM

And the award of kenya’s top comic goes to….(drums rolling in the back ground)…………..KIBAKI.

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Submitted by ikiplagat
Posted September 08, 2009 03:08 PM

Now he has been taken to Posta to open our letters.Only in Kenya do these ugly appointments occur..impunity rewarded

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Submitted by yawuon
Posted September 08, 2009 03:03 PM

First question: Did Kibaki consult with the other coalition partner in this key appointment as is required by the accord? 2. What is ALI going to do at the psot office? What experience/skills does he have to run the institutio? 3. Thank God the murderer can now be prosecuted for the shoot to kill orders of 2007 PEV 4. Where ir Ringera?

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Submitted by benadede
Posted September 08, 2009 02:57 PM

Like Ali and others before him, Iteere is set up to fail – rising population, rising inequality, inadequate force in terms of personnel numbers, training,and equipment…..and the biggest hurdle – ALL KENYANS WHO TAKE SHORTCUTS TO BEAT THE LAW.

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Submitted by lagoondoctor
Posted September 08, 2009 02:33 PM

Heheheh! So what qualifications does ali have to be ceo of posta?? Maybe he has a degree in IT and wants to revolutionise the way we send letters, with door to door collection and delivery?!heheh he should have been made ceo of the high speed train project,he would shoot everyone who fails to deliver!

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Submitted by Isaya Baraza
Posted September 08, 2009 02:31 PM

We will support you Iteere if you will remove thugs in Kenya. The Polce Commissioner’s seat is one of the hottest in the Country. Good luck.

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Submitted by jabbarabu
Posted September 08, 2009 02:17 PM

what a good way to deflect public attention from Ringera firestom. Anyway iteere is equal to the task of reforming the force to a service that protects not only the looters but ordinary kenyans as well

thanks
http://telecomandinternet.com/?p=42

Moyenga said this treatment was incorrect. “How can health workers decide what is positive and negative? They cannot say a test result is a false negative without saying there are also false positive results.”

I just would like to bring forward this case. My daughter of 20, in Ouagadougou, was not taking anymore the malaria preventive treatment, was feeling very unwell on a monday morning. To be on the safe side, I took her for a malaria test, which was negative (2 hours later). The following wednesday morning, she was feverish and unwell. In the afternoon it was getting worse with a sudden rise of temperature. I took her straight away to a clinic where she was diagnosed with Malaria, a accute form of malaria. She was under IV for four days and was already feeling a lot better the day after the beginning of her treatment. The doctor said that her body had good resistance to Malaria. She was not taking malaria pills anymore because she was living there and you cannot take this permanently.
We were not given recommendation on the course of the next days when the test was negative although she had strong symptoms and that we were in the middle of the raining seasons.

There will be many more forgeries from the Soetoro side of the argument. These forgeries reflect on THEIR character and not on ours. We are in seeking and defending the truth.

Orly DID her due diligence and did us all a favour by keeping us abreast of the process. Now we know that we have yet another forged document and act of fraud, from this beguiler and pied piper. Another phony rigup from this pimp and pied piper of the many and the doomed.

One thousand fakeups from the Obama camp can never amount to one clean sheet of paper of historical record in his favour.

BORN IN KENYA. SIRED BY AN AMERICAN MALE.

I now think he was born in Kenya, but sired by an American. Yet that tentative verdict can change as things unfold. After all I’ve had to change my estimate several times over the last day or two.

All those now being ridiculed by the jackal-pack for wanting to pursue this document, until its veracity was established or falsified, must remember one thing. You did the right thing by wanting to seek the truth.

The side of the forgery and the side of those who just didn’t want to know are the self-same side. And that side is the wrong side of this issue. Though it is the truth of it, and in the way of things, that the crowd manipulation always runs the other way and this case being no exception to the general rule.

It is my momentary tentative speculative view that Raila would have found a way to take possession of Obama’s birth records as collatoral that he not be left out to hang and dry. This is an important thing to know OR ASSUME. This is the thing to simply assume for now and be ready for the consequences of the assumption.

The idea that Raila has the documents and that Obama will do anything no matter how vicious as a consequence to help the document-holder, must be taken into account as the highest priority if rightful Kenyan authority moves against Raila as any just God would have it. Because one would not wish to be unaware of the potential fury and deviousness of the usurpers reaction in order to help a man who has such vital sensitive documentation as part of his security apparatus.

The conclusion is that rightful Kenyan authority must take possession of the mans documentation before they try to take possession of the man himself.

Otherwise Obama’s long arm will reach out to help his comrade in ways so ruthless and large-scale, that no-one would believe it, even after all the bodies lie there burnt and in pieces on the smoking and scorched ground.

It is my tentative speculation that a deal must have been nutted out by their mutual third-country sponsors to each assist eachother in the usurpation of power.

Now it has been pointed out rightly the vanity of attempting a conspiracy in the White House when it is the case that a President cannot so much as keep a secret of mucking about with an intern over by the photocopier or under a desk in the West Wing.

This may be the case if all you have access to is your own secret service and if you can but only worry that your phone is being bugged by some faction of American Spooktown or other.

But how does it go for an American candidate in the primaries, when the nexus of conspiracy is thrashed out on a mobile phone between Raila and Obama, wherein the coded conversationa are rendered doubly impenetrable, by the fact of them speaking in a colloquial Luo dialect, that not one trained operative in the entirety of the United States would be capable of interpreting their instructions given eachother, to carry out alternate mayhem in eachothers space and against eachothers “enemies.”

Even if the conversation between the two “men” were straight-up and not the elipitical insider utterances akin to that of drug-dealers. Even if they were talking in their particular Luo dialect in a straight-forward way, there is no way that the various mututal favours, in the form of assassinations, and this and that, would be capable of being traced and interpreted by Americas own internal intelligence apparatus.

From that nexus, with third-party regime-intelligence and third-party financing, the two of them could easily cook up strategy; the implementation of which would be carried out by third-party-country spies and agents, totally at arms length.

It is in this sort of scenario, that we see how Donald Young could be murdered, and nothing leading back to implicate his former gay lover. Or we see a man working with the FBI regarding an attempted break-in in the relevant American passport office being shot in the back of the head. Yet not a single clue to link the murder to that man most potentially affected.

The Raila/Obama coded Luo-dialect conversations….. would allow strategy to be worked out SO TIGHT, and it would allow for specific tasks to be outsourced to any number of noxious regimes, ((themselves having people lodged in the American machinery of government to do their bidding.))

If I wasn’t out in the remote countryside myself, about one third of the time, I would not share these speculations with you. Such would be the effectiveness and lack of ability to track, the various contracts and strategies being put together by a Raila/Obama strategic nexus and enemy-regime-intelligence carrying out the results of the two “mens” negotiations and schemes.

When will this press release and interview by the Mombasa Imam take place? I pray very soon.

Right. It looks like Obamas allies putting out false documents just to confuse people. So they get wind that the real one is out there and they bodgy up a fake one to confuse everyone.

http://www.abc.net.au/pm/content/2008/s2646009.htm

However its not possible for me to ascertain whether they are talking about the same document.

It looks like friends of the usurper were able to lock up the original. It looks like they didn’t think it through and some good patriotic Kenyan and ally of human liberty thought about the divorce and found this other one. Thats why this one doesn’t have the doctors signature but it has the correct registrar.

Normally you would think that there are allies of Obama placing fake certificates everywhere. But this one looks a bit too clever for that. This looks like the real deal.

http://ohforgoodnesssake.com/?p=1676

Is this the same birth certificate you referred to in the past? The democrats and Obama will find a way around it. They have much power now.

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As counter action to the system of white supremacy it is STRONGLY suggested that non-white people
- DO NOT mistreat non-white person/s
- DO NOT engage in sex with white people
- SUSPECT ALL white people of practicing racism white supremacy

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As counter action to the system of white supremacy it is STRONGLY suggested that non-white people
- DO NOT mistreat non-white person/s
- DO NOT engage in sex with white people
- SUSPECT ALL white people of practicing racism white supremacy