Robert Gates compromised: Former CIA boss appointed by Obama to the cabinet will stop CIA from revealing Obama’s personal information – CIA remains loyal to Gates!
Posted by africanpress on December 2, 2008
It is all smiles, as Gates has no choice but keep the secret a little longer: (Robert Gates in the middle smiles away - revealing Obama’s secrets in a book which was to hit the market in February 2009)
Robert Gates’ book with a working title, “Obama citizenship and adoption – The book of Revelation” which was expected to be released in February 2009, if Obama is inaugurated on the 20th january may now not see the light. Remember the book of Revelation in the Bible? What a resemblence!
Robert Gates a former CIA boss knows Obama’s secrecy. Obama knows very well that a CIA man knows a great deal about politicians and their dirty behaviour.
Nominating Gates is a very interesting move that Obama has now pulled and that gurantees a lot of things, one being the safety of all the information that CIA may have on Obama, including his real citizenship and the birth certificate issue.
Was Obama vetted when he took the Senate seat? What information does CIA have on his background on where he was born, the citizenship issue and his adoption? Will CIA say anything about this if there is a demand from the American people or will they keep silent for the respect of their former popular boss, Robert Gates?
Like they say, keep your enemies more closer because then you know their every move.
Having Gates closer is going to ensure that nothing goes wrong because Gates being the only Republican given a top job is happy to get the honor of representing the Republicans in the new Cabinet.
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Dr. Robert M. Gates was sworn in on December 18, 2006, as the 22nd Secretary of Defense. Before entering his present post, Secretary Gates was the President of Texas A&M University, the nation’s seventh largest university. Prior to assuming the presidency of Texas A&M on August 1, 2002, he served as Interim Dean of the George Bush School of Government and Public Service at Texas A&M from 1999 to 2001.
Secretary Gates served as Director of Central Intelligence from 1991 until 1993. He is the only career officer in CIA’s history to rise from entry-level employee to Director. Secretary Gates served as Deputy Director of Central Intelligence from 1986 until 1989 and as Assistant to the President and Deputy National Security Adviser at the White House from January 20, 1989, until November 6, 1991, for President George H.W. Bush.
By Chief Editor Korir
casinva said
Mr. Korir,
Why did someone remove the original thread? I could only find it by going back to my computer’s history, and then I found this at your site again. I think it is good to know how you feel about this.
I am wondering if the FBI and CIA are involved in this, and that is why we have not heard the tape yet. That is what I have thought all along — that you do not have free reign of when the tape is aired. If there is a tape with what you said was on it, the FBI and CIA should be doing the work that would need to do as they should with ANY information collected that would indicate possible international crimes and U.S. national security breaches.
People keep forgetting the seriousness of the charges you described in the earliest threads RE the MO tape and the various OTHER things she told you!
I am glad I got to read this before it was removed by forces unknown to me. Thanks for trying to get that word out. Seeing your opinion here in this thread does give you more credibility as far as I am concerned.
casinva said
PS, I left a post at the Fallen US Soldiers thread RE snopes that is in moderation. I hope it is helpful to you.
By the way, my husband was in The United States Army for 25 years, a retired disabled veteran now. No belittlement of a story that in all its generality is true will make me any less proud of what our military does for us and for others!
Thanks for your posts today.
paulus31 said
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happy2bvermonter said
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odat1997 said
His name is Robert Gates. Bill Gates is the millionaire Microsoft founder.
And no offense but this just does not sound right at all. Gates has nothing to do with citizenship. He is the Defense Secretary.
mrmagooiseeyou1 said
now more than ever Mr. Korir – if you have the tapes and Imam – now would be the time – Are you there????
paulus31 said
Bill Gate, Microsoft???
toweleee said
OK kiddies, what is the difference between Bill Gates, billionaire philanthropist, and Robert Gates, current US Secretary of Defense?
Hey Chief, for a seasoned international journalist you sure do mess things up, even the easy stuff. Just sayin’ what I’m seein’.
Don’t forget to bring a towel!
nelliebelle said
You probably can’t say a lot, but when the CIA spoke with you, did you sense that they thought the informatio important?
dododo6 said
Bill Gates owns microsoft, you are talking about Robert Gates. Please make correction.
jewelz4u2 said
The CIA. aka (secret government) sure love to have there dirty little secrets on there Presidents so they insure that they have the upper hand at all times. So hopefully something comes up in the mean-time to throw a monkey wrench into their plans…..
Though I just can’t shake that feeling that the Clintons didn’t have a hand in at least some of this stuff. Obamas new cabinet looks like more of the same instead of “Hope and Change”
Blessings to all,
Shelley (aka….hal2001)
jewelz4u2 said
Comments in moderation, I just don’t understand what did I do Chief please tell me ?
Blessings,
Shelley
phillybits said
Guess it’s time to start tin-foiling the walls and spray painting the windows.
glsmarlton said
well API – you could have avoided all of this so called secretcy had you released the MO tapes and the Imam doc–in time. so thanks for nothing. now we are all screwed!
d0nttr3ad0nm3 said
The Supreme Court of the United States is our last line of defense in this situation. If they fail to force this issue into the light of day then they have failed the American people by not upholding the law.
If this happens then it is left to the people.
I need to wrap my head with duct tape before my brain explodes!!
I can’t believe the apathy!!???
Only God can save us now and I think He means to teach us a terrible lesson.
I hope we learn from it.
m628 said
That is Robert Gates, not Bill Gates. Bill Gates is the Microsoft guy. Neither Gates has a forthcoming book about Obama. Bill Gates is working on a book for publication in April about charity work and Robert Gates was working on a defense strategy book with Zbigniew Brezinski. Whoever is giving you your information is really messing with your mind.
As someone in the press it should be fairly simple for you to check the upcoming calendars of the various publishing houses. Thats what we did and it took literally seconds to debunk your info.
howardappel said
Just a small note. You would probably have more credibility when attacking the Secretary of Defense if you could manage to correctly identify him. The Secretary of Defense is Robert Gates, not Bill Gates. Bill Gates heads up Microsoft Corporation.
I would think that a “responsible” journalist would be able to tell the difference. I would also like to see what evidence you have that either Robert Gates or Bill Gates intended to release a book next year addressing the issue of President-elect Obama’s citizenship.
BTW,I have been reading this site since all of this BS about his citizenship, the Michelle Obama tapes, etc. began whenever I needed a good laugh. The articles and comments always provide that.
Keep it up, please. It is both so amusing and sad.
chingalecabrones said
comments open?
skygypsy101 said
Ummm….that would be Robert (BOB) Gates. Not Bill. Bill Gates owns Microsoft. Robert Gates has no book pending regarding Obama or anyone else. If you are going to report American news it would be in your best interest and credibility to report it correctly.
stocksthatgoup said
Just a test
apirocks said
So you are implying that Gates may be aware that Obama is not a natural born citizen?
If he had information to that effect, then why the hell would he choose to serve in the Cabinet, knowing that Obama is not eligible? I would have thought the fact that Gates accepted confirms that the CIA has nothing on Obama.
kindagood said
Oh, well. Nothing I can do about it.
brokenarrowjoe said
Ok Folks, it has begun.
This country has gone communist.
Kill the leaders
momforjustice said
H-E-L-L-O, Where is everbody ???? Have we given up ? I thought the tapes were going to be aired over the Thanksgiving Holiday, while I was going to be away…. I get back and “what, still no tapes”??????????
ddlew said
If the book had anything incriminating about Obama, why would he wait till February of ‘09 to release it anyway?
Oh yeah………….Where are those tapes Korir?
ronreagan said
Good evening Ladies and Gentlemen..
ronreagan said
So we are all under moderation this evening, I see. I was wondering why an article was posted 8 houirs and 15 minutes ago.. had no comments..
Now, I see… comment box is open but everyone is under moderation…
glsmarlton said
please remove me from moderation–that is so stupid. either post my statement or delete it.
now i know that this site is a fraud————-and you have created a monster to the innocent citizens of America by making promises that you CONTINUALLY make excuses as to why you can’t air these tapes.
You people are no better than the MSM and yet you put them down for not reporting the truth———-do you actually think you are being truthful with us? promise after promise?
keep your stories based on afraican life and not america if you can’t report the truth. this is shameful.
paulus31 said
CE Korir:
Hvorfor er mine bemaerkninger niogfirs, halvfems samt enoghalvfems stadigvaek spaerret for inspektion og offentliggoerelse???
Venligst publisere dem, tak!
paulus31 said
CE:
We have not heard anything about airing of MO tape(s)lately???
Sir, if the above article’s source is creditable, there is even a much stronger argument now that the MO tape, and the Imam papers to be aired and published IMMEDIATELY, please!!!
ronreagan said
Chief,
Where did you find this crazy story? It’s nonsense.
Think about it… if Robert Gates had such knowledge and was putting it into a book… then that would mean the information would be known by the CIA, FBI and federal government they would have prsented that to the Election Commission and he woiuld have been disqualified as a candidate… in addition to other methods that would have prevented him from being elected.
This story can not possibly be true… UNLESS the information would prove that Obama is a balid US citizen and a valid candidate.
chingalecabrones said
I’m not so hot on Gates but it is a deft political move
1cloud said
I would be interested in knowing the publisher. Where did this information come from?
chingalecabrones said
yeah actually reading it, it does sound silly, but what else is new around here.
hope7 said
Hello Chief,
Everyone is curious about where you got the information about Robert Gate’s book. Could you please share the information?
Thanks-
Hope
chingalecabrones said
sorry folks – just one spam-of-the-day:
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africanpress said
People really do surprise me. They do not believe anything they are told. Why do the American people interest themselves only with proof one way or another?
There is this thing of – the blessed are those who believe before seeing.
Chief editor Korir
chingalecabrones said
And Chief, you believe anything you are told?
OK, maybe the cultural differences are just to vast for you to operate in the West anymore.
Stick with the charity
hwy93 said
Chief are you trying to be a journalist or what? Preachers deal in belief, Journalists deal in proof.
1cloud said
Chief, We can get advance copy purchase if we were able to know the publisher and where it is to be sold. I buy books months ahead of time. It is then sent to me when it is ready to be shipped. If perhaps the publisher is not ready to advertise for the book, then I guess we will have to wait. It sounds like a good read.
africanpress said
When is the electoral college sitting, and how important is the inforamtion we have for them
CEko
chingalecabrones said
Yes, we are to believe you have a large staff of reporters and then we see their photos…oh yes Belief makes it so…
You can wish in one hand and s**t in the other. See which one fills up first.
I believe in the tank.
I believe I’ll have another drink.
hwy93 said
Journalists also source their stories Mr. Korir.
chingalecabrones said
#41
Stop playing BS chief. You know all this info. Darnit
ronreagan said
Chief,
Please do no condescend to us. No.. I do not believe the story. It makes absolutely ZERO logical sense.
What is the source of your story? It is not reported any place else on the internet… without citing API.
Who and where wes the source of your story. WHERE? on the internet can we find this story???… BEFORE API carried the story.
Until then… the story is not true.
hwy93 said
Mr. Korir, Do you ever intend to appologize for stringing so many people along for so long?
hwy93 said
This is every bit as true as the MO tape story.
calynn said
Americans simply want the truth. Good or bad. Nothing more, nothing less.
chingalecabrones said
dont run away -Be a MAN and finish what you start- Why not?
rightallthetime said
Electoral College meets DECEMBER 13, 2008, ELEVEN DAYS FROM NOW.
hwy93 said
Mr’ Korir, How is it that you have not mastered Google yet?
computerjunkie123 said
Stop posting stuff about US politics and soldiers on an African “news” site…
Oh and stop lying about so-called “tapes” you shameless 419 scammer.
rightallthetime said
Chief Korir
Your tapes seem to have lost here in this USA because you have kept people dangling here for almost two months and no tapes.
We are going ahead with our own investigations and petitions and your tapes and inman birth of Obamas papers seem lost to us now and of little interest. I believe you are not a honest man any more.
ronreagan said
Chief,
You told us about the supposed tape of Michelle Obama on October 15th. How many different days were we told that the tape would be release? All of the days that the tape was supposed to be released have come and gone…. and now 48 days later… still no tape.
The supposed Imam’s supposed birth documents are supposed to be released yesterday, Monday, December 1st. NOw here we are.. one hour from December 3rd in Washington, DC. and still no Imam birth documentation.
Now tonight you come with this crazy story about Robert Gates, and a book, and he was silenced by Obama…. but you do not provide a verifiable source for you information.
Over the past 49 days you have strung us along with 3 of your own original stories… and in those 49 days time you have not provided anything tangible… It is all based on belief.. nothing tangible.. not one thing tangible.
ronreagan said
Not one thing tangible.. No tape… no Imam birth documentation.. no credible source for this Obama-Gates-book story..
If the tape exists there are no forces preventing API from releasing the tape…. IF the tape exists.. The only force preventing the release of the tape is Chief Korir.
There is not any other one force in the world from preventing the audio of that tape and a transcript from being posted online in less than 5 minutes… no other one force other than Chief Korir or the fact that this whole thing… the tape, the Imam… and this story are all a hoax.
momforjustice said
yeap and I was post # 1, written an hour before your Ronreagan, and still my post is in moderation—- bet this one don’t make it out either..
We are not to be negative, and yet all I was asking in post # 1 was where was everyone and why the tapes weren’t aired over thanksgiving… (I was away)
docwillie said
This site has all the credibility of sub-sahara politics.
phunnypharm said
This site is like Fantasy Land. CE, you most definitely don’t sound like a journalist – more like a writer of fiction.
1Cloud, what have you been drinking?
phunnypharm said
ronreagan Says:
December 3, 2008 at 5:19 am
the fact that this whole thing… the tape, the Imam… and this story are all a hoax
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This has been a pretty good hoax, but nothing compared to the hoax BHO has perpetrated on the American people.
momforjustice said
Opps….. I do apoligize …
My #1 post in moderation, became # 24 post, which is out of moderation…..
How did that happen, I refreshed the page before I posted, and there were only 4 post logged and I refreshed it again 1 minute later and now there are 58 posts ??????????????????????
ronreagan said
Mom for Justice your post became #24 because 23 other posts were posted before you.
I think it may have been around 9pm EST/ 3am Norway time before Chief released all the posts from moderation. In other words, though he had the comment box open… he had all posts going to moderation… I think he posted his story and then went to bed. And then when he woke up, he turned of the moderation, releasing all the ocmments.
chingalecabrones said
Chief is baring his soul on chat
dododo6 said
I think Mr. Korir is done. Put a fork in him. If people still believe him after this, then they are a sad sort.
computerjunkie123 said
There’s still a few tapetards in there.. he’ll still have a following
chingalecabrones said
tapetard and proud!
I’m having a blast…loved the tank talk…the Chief is , sigh, Dreamy
kindagood said
C’mon. By now, we all know that there are no tapes and there is no Imam with documents.
If you were to have asked me last month who was more credible, Korir or Obama, I would have said Korir.
Ask me now, and I’d say Obama. I don’t know why you did it, but the BS peddled here at API
has actually made Obama more credible and palatable. We all must move on, folks.
There is nothing (absolutely nothing) here that will help the real “movers and shakers” that are
actively pursuing this issue. Mr. Korir has spun some tales and deserves no homage.
chingalecabrones said
Hommage au Chief Korir…has a nice ring to it. like a luxury cuve of wine
ronreagan said
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wannabelieve said
Mr K,
When someone posts a legitimate news story, it is insufficient to expect that people simply believe in claims made. Our journalistic standards indicate that when making a claim, such as the claim about Gates supposed upcoming book, you should at the minimum be able to provide verifiable source information to substantiate this claim.
Otherwise, you not open yourself up to libel and slander liability, but reduce your credibility to zero. While you have heard much of this, maybe it is something worth stopping and really thinking about. Some years back, in a class I learned that when I heard something about myself three times from different people, I should understand it to be truth as they saw it and that it was no their, but MY responsibility to do whatever necessary to right wrongs.
In chat yesterday afternoon, I made a statement about something I had remembered reading and clowd asked me to provide the source of my information. Unsubstantiated claims are considered fiction. Fact is based on evidence. Belief belongs nowhere in the equation of news.
In this country we believe in the truth. If you want to be accepted and respected, then you have to be willing to work in our way, not yours. If you are not interested in reaching the American market, then you can operate however you choose. I grew up in another part of the world. If I wanted to be accepted in their culture I had to learn to learn and respect their ways. If not, then I could never fit in.
I have no invested emotional interest in however you may decide. This is your choice to make.
Just one American’s opinion, for whatever it’s worth.
paulus31 said
CE:
Det er interesant at se hvordan hoenemor og hendes tilhaengere kopierer og posterer all bemarkninger fra din samtalerummet paa API.in. Alt hvad som blivet diskuteret i samtalerummet kan du laese og genkenne paa bjergsiden. De maa spendere utroligt meget af deres “dyrebart” tid med at se hvad der foregaar her!!!
Jeg just undrer hvad motiveringen og aarsagen til deres “interesse” af hvad der foregaar her???
Venligst se mine tidligere bemarkning angaaende hvorfor nogle af mine poster stadigvaek er censureret!!
paulus31 said
t e s t
africanpress said
hallo testing
africanpress said
New day test
skiesofpurple said
Mr. Korir,
I believe the electoral college mets on the 13th of December but Votes on the 15th. It is very important that this information reaches the masses ahead of time so it be replayed over and over to reach everyone. That way we will be sure that it reaches the electorial body.
God Bless.
R
dixieinflorida said
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wannabelieve said
Why is my comment in moderation?
apirocks said
Hi Chief
Reading you loud and clear.
apirocks said
Test 123 – can I come out please?
slider77 said
tissizest
junbong said
I am really bouleversed tonight.
I only check in here to read the comments of susie hudson. She has got to be the funniest wackiest spaced-out woman there ever was. Yesterday ( my time ) I had the greatest delight in seeing her sadly but deliberately post her lost faith in Mr Korir. No recriminations, just deep sadness at her own previous willing suspension of disbelief. The next post was somebody’s half-baked attempt to get her to see the error of her ways ( now that wasn’t likely to work, was it, given the absolute weary tone of resignation in Ms Hudson’s post of … resignation ).
And the very next post?
With indecent haste Ms Hudson sees the error of her ways and has spun 360degrees faster than a centrifuge – on her knees metaphorically sycophantically praising her Lord and Mentor Korir and abjectly all-but flagellating herself in her efforts to atone for having ever doubted him for the micro-instant that she had done so.
She may well be some sort of plant but i don’t care. In this whole fabulous Dickension saga she has always been my favourite buffoon, and I just can’t live without her.
chingalecabrones said
Hail the New Dawn Chief
karen808 said
Good morning Chief & company. :-) I missed the chat yesterday. Just read the article and the comments.
karen808 said
There are now 3 cases before the USSC. All three — Berg and then jointly Donofrio and Woltolsky (sp?) — have filed TROs (temporary restraining orders) to halt the Dec 13 “vote” of the Electoral College until Obama’s citizenship issues are resolved.
I consider the Robert Gates “book deal” amusing. ;-) Practically everyone on this blog is all freaked out. . .but I kinda like the story. In my opinion, it’s a clever and useful story.
Remember everyone: Obama’s “people” read this site. The story manages to keep THEM in a tizzy which is not a bad thing. Problem is we’re reading it too.
I’m no longer stressed over the MO tapes and Imam documents. If they’re real (and I still believe they are) then they will be exposed at the PROPER time when they can be MOST effective.
I like Chief Korir :-)
karen808 said
Since I have an open forum, am now fully awake and have my fresh coffee, I think I’ll just write for a bit.
The other day, there was discussion re: what would happen IF Obama is removed b/c he’s ineligible to be POTUS.
Many thought Biden would become POTUS. Some suggested Hillary would somehow step in. Someone suggested Pelosi (God forbid).
My thoughts/questions:
1. What was the INTENT of the Founding Fathers when they wrote Article II of the US Constitution as it applied to the requirement that the POTUS & V-POTUS must be “natural born citizens?” That’s what I believe the USSC will need — be required — to answer. Only the USSC can properly answer this critical question.
2. We the People have discovered a loophole in the US Constitution — there’s no “mechanism” to enforce the 3 minimum requirements of the POTUS as required by Article II. The USSC clearly need to fix that little problem, or rather WHOPPER of a problem.
3. There’s no enforcement mechanism b/c, basically, we’ve never needed it before. We’ve never had a political party’s NOMINEE (and then victor in a Presidential election) would could possibly have NOT been a “natural born citizen” UNTIL now. NOW is not a great time b/c of our very serious economic woes and REAL danger in the world posed by worldwide Islamic Fascism (that IS and has taken root all over the world). Also, the fascist/communist resurgence of Russia (and her attempt to re-capture her former “Block” nations) is also a HUGE concern or at least it should be. It is VERY dangerous.
karen808 said
Ohhh bummer. Just realized I’m in “moderation” Oh well . . . .
susiehudson said
junbong, so sad of you to be so sub human. youve been on my case since ive come to this site. im not too sure why. it must be that I somehow get through to myou. if I were a bore, or inanly silly, or as you call me bambnoonish, than why would you spend so much time following me
susiehudson said
If you met me in person im sure you would like me, I believe thaty I have much to offer people. I have a sister with cerebral palsey who relies on me. I have a 19 month old son. I own my own buisness, Fine carpentry, and I vote. I also think Im very informed. I watch the news {fox} read, and unfortunatly this is the first time ive ever indulged in a blog. I dont come across well. as far as my dropping to my knees in a 360 degree….iwas certainly having a bad day. I was venting and waqs tired. I still believe there is a tape, always did. I was wrong for posting my unsure thoughts during that time, although I didnt expect to be attacked over it. your one mean person. I dont even know why Im entertaining a response to you. maybe in the hopes of understanding your obsession with me
susiehudson said
im curious about you mr junbong…are you in favor of obama…if not do you have a political opinion. I wouldnt know because I never pay attention to your posts, your mention of me and my son hudsons name caught my eye in your post.
karen808 said
4. When the Founding Fathers (FF) wrote the 3 minimum requirements of the POTUS in Article II, U.S. Constitution (USC) they essentially said that IF the POTUS was found ineligible the V-POTUS would assume the position of POTUS until the POTUS is eligible or until a new POTUS is elected/selected. Thus we would now assume that Biden would step in if Obama is ineligible. . . but not necessarily.
5. The FF also wrote that the V-POTUS would be the presidential candidate who had received the next highest number of votes in the Presidential election. That would be McCain.
6. BUT, Amendment xxxx (can’t recall) changed how a V-POTUS becomes V-POTUS. Now, each party’s Pres. Nominee SELECTS their running mate (the V-potus) so now we have a TICKET — i.e., Obama/Biden and McCain/Palin.
7. IF Obama is ineligible to BE POTUS, he was always ineligible. Thus, he never had the authority, in the first place, to select ANY running mate – V-POTUS.
8. So, we’ll see how the USSC figures out how to deal with this problem–screw-up/loophole — in our USC.
karen808 said
The other day I was listening to Mark Levin on the radio and he played the comments of one of Obama’s “appointments.’ Can’t recall the guy’s name but he started PRAISING China’s political cohesiveness and early (and sincerely) recommended we the US should take a “cue” from China and WE should “have China for a day.”
Well, folks, China is a COMMUNIST country. The REASON they have “political cohesiveness” is b/c they only have ONE party — the communist part. If you don’t like what the communist party is doing in China, you end up dead or in some Chinese goulog never to be heard from again.
The American people lost their minds in the 2008 Presidential Election. One of the reasons IS that Americans, overall, are exhausted by our own complex (NO free moment) lives. We’re too busy – literally — to really investigate our political leaders.
Because of that, we have now elected Barack H. Obama, a man who WAS raised by communist spies (at LEAST communist sympathizers) including Ann Dunham. BHO has also had serious ties — spanning back to his college days — with anti-American, ANTI-freedom Black Liberation theologists (BOTH “christian — Jeremiah wrigtht AND muslim — Farakhan). There’s a connection between Communism and liberation theology (whether it’s racially motivated or otherwise) that goes back to the 1920s in the US
susiehudson said
funny thingh is that karen 808/condie rice is the one who reminded me to hang in there. She has informative interesting posts based on fact. far more informative than anything I ever posted. you jump on me junbong because I write from the heart, so you call me spaced out. karen808 is more factual, I dont see you confronting her, do you fear her knowledge?
karen808 said
Why? B/c the Soviets were SMART. They immediately recognized WHO would be the “proletariat” who would rise up against the bourgoisie to overthrow the US Govt in REVOLUTION. The “proletariat” was, obviously, the blacks who WERE very unfairly discriminated in the US for generations. That was a terrible and horrifying and totally indefensible act/occurrence in the US for many generations.
So, early on, in the 1920s & 1930s many Blacks (i.e, Richard Wright, Langston Hughes, Paul Robeson, Frank Marshall Davis-FMD) joined the Communist Party of the US (CPUSA).
BUT, once many of the American Blacks realized what Soviet Communism REALLY means — after witnessing the horror & mercilessness of Stalin — many American blacks left the CPUSA (i.e., Richard Wright & Hughes, and plenty of others). FMD (Obama’s mentor) however did NOT leave the CPUSA. He basically stayed faithful to Soviet Communism.
susiehudson said
also karen I find that alot of people get there news from non/news propaganda [ie. sat. nite live, leno ltterman, daily news, cobert etc etc…these people were prodded to vote, most for the first time with absolutly no knowledge of who they were voting for. mostly a free tank of gas and free money, free house, etc. they voted as if they were purchasing a lottery ticket. those voters pushed obama through, and the bad luck that mccain ran a horribly bad campaign when we needed him the most, all he talked about was pork and maverick. redundant and boring. anyother politician would have blown obama out of the water by posing the facts….mccain was too humble, too slow…maybe too old for todays in your face mentality.
karen808 said
You’re a MOM, Suzie, who is legitimately fearful for your child as we should ALL be. The US and the world faces many dangers at this moment in the history of the world.
I actually have a lot of FAITH in our system of Govt. And, I do believe that God will guide us out of this mess. I just don’t believe that HE is ready for Armagheddon, and/or that “one world govt.” I believe God wants to give the WORLD more time to repent, return to Him.
Reality is: without the US to protect democracy and freedom, worldwide, it will all collapse and in relatively short order. I don’t trust Obama at all b/c of WHO raised him and WHO he chose to emulate ALL of his life. . .and the people Obama chose to surround himself with all of his life. They ALL fit a PATTERN — which, unfortunately, is MARXIST/socialist combined with liberation theology (be it black “christian” or black “muslim”) It bothers me that BHO admitted to being MOST inspired by Malcom X (of the Nation of Islam) and WE — the idiot American — VOTED for this guy to be the 44th POTUS.
We’ve lost our minds. . .and our votes are not only dangerous to us, personally. They are dangerous to the ENTIRE Free world.
So . . .I’m hoping against hope that the current US Govt (especially the USSC) will SAVE us.
After all, why bother fighting Islamic fascism around the world, and on our shores, IF you’re let some extremist guy like BHO take over the Executive Branch of the US Govt??
karen808 said
What is also interesting about Obama is that he is NOT selecting left-wing radicals. He’s got a few worrisome choices — his Attorney General (who was instrumental in pardoning Frank Rich after Clinton Admin). Rich sold arms to IRAN and also defrauded the US out of hundreds of millions of dollars.
Janet Napolano is a problem too b/c she’s so PRO-invasion of US soil by illegal aliens. We now have approx. 50 million “illegal aliens” in the US who are undocumented and many live under the radar. And, now she’s going to head Homeland Security?? Seems insane to me..
wisteriablooms said
People really do surprise me. They do not believe anything they are told. Why do the American people interest themselves only with proof one way or another?
There is this thing of – the blessed are those who believe before seeing.
Chief editor Korir
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Chief,
With all due respect, you’re asking way too much from your American readers. To ask people to put blind faith in what they’re being told by someone they don’t even know & have never personally met is presumptuous. In addition, this is being asked of them over the internet (not in person) where there hasn’t been a shred of evidence to support the tape’s existence for weeks now. It isn’t unreasonable for people to ask you for proof since they don’t know you AT ALL. Relationships are developed through ongoing experiences with people & are based on trust that comes through keeping one’s word, following through on promises, etc. Trust is something that is earned & should never be ASSUMED. The Americans don’t owe you their blind faith & trust. They don’t even know you! You’re asking way too much from your readers.
Nowhere in the Bible does it tell us to place blind faith (or “believe before seeing”) in PEOPLE. Only GOD deserves that kind of trust. I can tell you that He’s the only One I put my absolute faith & trust in. His word & character are impeccable. He’s totally faithful & the only one deserving of that kind of blind faith. Trust between humans has to be EARNED.
There have been several Americans here on this site supporting you for weeks now exercising extreme patience with absolutely no proof that the tape exists. That’s amazing considering none of them have ever met you NOR do you have a relationship with any of them that’s been built up over time where their trust has been earned. To ask them to continue to believe in your word when you continue to make new deadlines, make excuses & postpone the release over & over again is outrageous. If you were God & asking people to “hold on” that would be a different story. However, that isn’t the case. God isn’t the one telling us to hold on here. Broken promises over & over again will not help you to gain the trust & respect of others.
Let’s be honest. It wouldn’t take a whole lot for you to “prove” the tape’s existence. Even something as simple as releasing a snippet of the tape would be suffice to at least calm people’s concerns & give them hope that they do exist (for real). Yet, you’ve chosen not to do so. To ask people to keep blindly hanging on & believing for weeks without a shred of evidence to back up your claim is presumptuous. In truth, your trying to apply a Biblical principle that applies to faith in & one’s relationship with God (believing before seeing) to this particular circumstance is over the top. I can promise you that if you were standing in a court of law claiming to have “the goods” but weren’t willing to produce them, your ship would sink. . . . FAST! The judge & jury would look at you like you were from Mars if you asked them to “just believe before you see” & didn’t produce the evidence. Your case would not stand.
Dangling an invisible carrot out there only serves to annoy people. If you want the trust of your readership, I highly suggest that you provide some hard evidence that the tape exists. Otherwise, it’s perfectly reasonable for people to wander off into the sunset never to return to your website assuming API is a scam. Why shouldn’t they?
susiehudson said
You nailed it karen. honestly when I look into my sons eyes I melt with the fear of were this world is going. Ive never been so emotionally involved in politics before. maybe because were at a critically dangerous point. I dont think God is ready. I think hes waking us up a little
karen808 said
Wisteria — you’re reasoning makes perfect sense. The problem is that this entire election makes NO sense. While it’s certainly possible that Chief Korir’s MO tapes/Imam documents could be a hoax, at this point I’m not prepared to assume that.
Reason: AFTER the Nov. 4 election, timing became EVERYTHING. So, IF the Chief has this “evidence” it cannot be revealed, willy nilly, on this website (or youtube) OR by the MBOs. There are 3 lawsuits re: Obama’s eligibility before the USSC right at this moment.
On Dec 5, the USSC justices will review (all 3 cases) in closed-door session. I personally think it would be stupid to release the “evidence” that Chief Korir has at THIS moment.
What I wish, and sooo regret, is that the evidence was not release PRIOR to Nov. 4. If it had been, then this constituitonal crisis could have been avoided. McCain would have won.
BUT, maybe the “powers that be” concluded that we NEED to “fix” the US Constitution. Might as well it now. . .and Obama has give us the avenue to do it.
indy500 said
Susie, Hope lies in the Supreme Court cases, not this tape thing. Even if this tape turns out to be true, only the Court will be able to reverse the smoke and mirrors of the Obama machine.
karen808 said
“might as well do it now . . .and Obama has given us the avenue to do it.”
Reality is: the nation is simply going to HAVE to endure this Constitutional Crisis. We’ve suffered through other, and worse, crisises in our history. Hopefully, the US (and the WORLD) will emerge after this crisis is resolved with a new, and more realistic, perspective on the dangers we ALL face in both Islamic Fascism (which honestly IS sweeping the world) and unfortunately a resurgence of Russia as a fascist/totalitarian state w/KGB trained Vladimir Putin at the helm. We’ve got Iran very close to developing nuclear weapons AND we need to worry about Pakistan, a nation with a fairly substantial nuclear arsenal already.
Nuclear weapons (Weapons of MASS destruction) have CHANGED the dynamics of the world FOREVER. We must stop the advance of new nations joining the nuclear club.
The MORE nations w/nuclear weapons, the MORE likely there will be nuclear war which IS essentially “the end” — at least it means the slaughter of multiple millions of human beings, worldwide, in an instant.
indy500 said
“Reality is: the nation is simply going to HAVE to endure this Constitutional Crisis. We’ve suffered through other, and worse, crisises in our history.”
True,this ranks up there in the top 5. Only this time, the threat is within – alot like 1860.
karen808 said
Bottom line: UNFORTUNATELY, neither BHO nor anyone else will be capable of TALKING or reasoning Ahmadinijahd (& Iran’s Ahotolahs’) OUR of acquiring nuclear weapons. Why?
EASY — they know that being a nuclear power GIVES them tremendous power in the world and to blackmail the world. Radical Islamic groups (w/now millions of members) IS suicidal. Anyone who is suicidal CAN blackmail those who are not. Iran knows that nuclear weapons are their ticket to unbridled and unrestrained power in the world. And, THIS FACTION of Islam absolutely believes it MUST attain this power b/c God (“Allah”) commands it.
Radical Islam does not even attempt to hide their COMMITTMENT to converting the world, through force, to Islam. Ultimately, anyone who refuses will be murdered and/or enslaved.
So, there is NOTHING that Ahmadinijahd (Iran) wants more than POWER and the only way for them to achieve the power they seek is through nuclear weapons. No one will be able to TALK/reason them out of it, period. We simply must accept reality as it IS not as we WISH it would/could be.
The world no longer has the LUXURY of making a mistake. The US must remain on OFFENSE, period. And, Europe is actually coming around to that conclusion too. Even France (Sarkozy) dismissed Obama as inexperienced and naive. . .and dangerously so.
Sarkozy is right.
karen808 said
The BEST thing that could happen to the US (and the world) right now is IF we LEARN who BHO really is — a marxist/socialist w/ serious ties to Islamic fascist radicals and racially motivated “liberation theologians.” LT IS revolutionary).
Americans need to know what we have DONE so that we can start TAKING SERIOUSLY this War on Terror which is essentially a war against FASCISM, totalitarianism. And, this fascist movement is sooo powerful now that it even got “control” of the US Govt (at least as far as Americans electing a man/regime that IS rooted in fascist/totalitarianism).
Indy — You’re right. The US, at this moment, is at such a dangerous point that it is very close to 1860. But, I believe we (and the world) WILL be saved/spared. God willing.
Oh Lord, PLEASE will it!
karen808 said
That’s all she wrote . . .See ya later guys. Sorry for my little soap-box. Pray.
indy500 said
If the Supreme Court rules on the evidence the way I have seen it, we’re in for a rough ride. It will be up to O which way he wants to travel. If indeed he turns out to be a foreigner, which he knew all along, then it will be up to him to either fess up to the sham or fight it while appealing to his hope and change crowd. My feeling is that he will revert to his community organizing days and demand his supports get in the face of those who oppose him. Which will be a constitutional crisis we haven’t seen since Fort Sumpter was fired upon. I don’t look forward to that prospect, but I’m ready if it comes.
indy500 said
If the Supreme Court rules on the evidence the way I have seen it, we’re in for a rough ride. It will be up to O which way he wants to travel. If indeed he turns out to be a foreigner, which he knew all along, then it will be up to him to either fess up to the sham or fight it while appealing to his hope and change crowd. My feeling is that he will revert to his community organizing days and demand his supports get in the face of those who oppose him, which will be a constitutional crisis we haven’t seen since Fort Sumpter was fired upon. I don’t look forward to that prospect, but I’m ready if it comes.
wisteriablooms said
Hi Karen,
At this point, I don’t know what to believe one way or another regarding the tape’s existence.
The only point that I was trying to make earlier is that it’s totally unreasonable for the Chief to continue to dangle an invisible carrot in front of the readers & ask them to go on blind faith. If he’s got the goods, he at least needs to put up some evidence to support that claim (whether it’s an innocuous snippet of the tape or something else). It’s way overdue at this point. The least he could do is get some kind of sworn statement from 2-3 witnesses that the tape exists for his readers. That in fact would be a biblical principle that would apply (the testimony of 2 or 3 witnesses). He claims that 10 people have heard the tape, so why not get sworn statements from some of those people? It’s simply unreasonable & presumptuous for him to ask his readers to continue to put blind faith in him & the existence of the tape with absolutely no shred of evidence to support that claim (especially after all the broken promises). Otherwise, all of this is either going to be perceived as a huge scam or manipulative mind game in order to keep people visiting the site out of morbid curiosity.
Timing wise, I’m actually not asking him to release the tape right now. However, regardless of WHEN the tape comes out, at this point he needs to give his readers some sort of evidence to support the claim that it even exists AT ALL (other than his word only). There are ways to do that without releasing the entire tape at this point. People might be willing to “hang on” a bit longer for the release but they need to at least be assured via something other than “blind faith in the Chief” that it indeed exists. It’s simply unreasonable for him to expect his readers to go on & on like this while placing the burden of “keep believing before you see” on the shoulders of API’s readership. It’s gone on way too long & it’s disrespectful to the readers to allow it to continue. Just my 2 cents.
Take care & have a great day!
indy500 said
Sorry about a double post. Dial up sux.
smoompie said
You guys have some serious crazy going on over here.
karen808 said
Want to respond to the last 2 posts.
INDY500 — Yeah, you may be correct that Obama will fight b/c he’s exerting so much presidential power/authority even though he’s not POTUS yet. I don’t recall a time, in the past, when the POTUS-”elect” did so much before assuming office. It may be that he IS preparing for a fight which is why he’s DOING so much even though he’s not yet POTUS.
Question is WHY is the current US Admin permitting this? Don’t know . . .but if Obama is proven to be ineligible — not natural born and he knew it when he ran — then all this “authority” he’s assuming will simply add to the shock when Americans realize that someone who CANNOT be POTUS has been ACTING like the POTUS.
Then, there is always the possibility that BHO is acting like POTUS b/c he knows he WAS born in Hawaii and is “natural born” in which case he will be POTUS. That would also explain (and more reasonably) why EVERYONE including the current Admin and many Republicans are simply accepting him as POTUS-elect w/out question.
We’ll see what happens. To be truthful, I don’t know what’s going to happen. IF BHO does become POTUS, I believe the US will still survive. Somehow I can’t see the American people forfeiting our rights. And, we can throw-out the Dems in 2010 (2 yrs) so BHO will have less control.
Problem is that BHO IS, and intends to create, a “super-majority” of Democratic/liberal voters. He’s going to use ACORN (now renamed) to do that. . .so the nation might end-up w/ONE “super-party” — the Dems/liberals/socialists.
WISTERIA — My guess is that Korir is working w/the “elements” attempting to stop Obama. The Obama/Odinga connection (2006-??) was is very serious for Kenya. It really is. So, I trust Korir, at this time.
I also look at this site, NOW, differently: I view it as an attempt to totally CONFUSE Obama. We just happen to be “in the line of fire” but we are here by CHOICE.
Again, IF that MO Tape and especially the Imam documents exist, they are EVIDENCE. No reason to “show your hand” — evidence — at this point. Best that it be a SURPRISE to Obama and his “followers.”
I’ve also considered one other thing — REAL African AMERICANS are going to turn against OBAMA for what he’s done. Yes, there will be rioting and some violence but I believe those Obama “rioters”/hard-core proponents DON’T honor the US and our constitution anyway. Let them riot. Then we’ll know who they are — and they will include ALL races: white, black, hispanic, asian. THEY will be the socialists/marxists — hard core Liberation theology revolutionaries. Might as well KNOW who they are . . .and “round-em-up.”
Take care.
africanpress said
karen808 ,
I enjoy the way you argue your points.
Chief editor Korir
karen808 said
Thanks Chief. HUGS. :-) Protect that evidence, Sir!
hushboadicea said
Good morning all!
There are several reasons why I don’t condemn Korir or dismiss the tapes and birth docs as untrue…
1 – There was no need to claim audio tapes if there were no tapes. They could have just made up a whole transcript out of nothing if they had wanted, posted the transcript, and gotten plenty of hits to their website. No need to claim audio tapes.
2 – You cannot prove a negative. If there are no tapes, there is no way to prove it. Everyone here who states unequivocally that there are no tapes is a liar, because they don’t know that.
3 – If, in fact, the tapes contain sensitive info which could affect our national security, then it would be irresponsible for the tapes to just be released in their entirety. Korir may not have realized this at first.
4 – The CIA has been instrumental in releasing classified info on the War in Iraq, jeopardizing our troops and our mission. Many think there has been an internal war between the CIA and the Executive Branch (president). I can easily believe that renegade factions in the CIA would do whatever necessary to keep these tapes from being aired, with Korir stuck in the middle.
5 – I know from past experience how Obama’s peeps work, and it’s ugly – they don’t play nice. What Korir has described fits the Obama playbook perfectly.
6 – Notice how many Obama bullies there are here? The funny thing about bullies is that they are really cowards at heart. What would they have to be scared of? The truth. Their verbal abuse and cyber bullying tells me they are very, very scared that Korir does have the goods on Obama.
7 – The words purportedly said by Michelle: “My husband knows there is no law which will prevent him from being president.” Obama is often called a “Constitutional Scholar.” Someone who knows the Constitution and our laws inside and out. Someone who knows of the loopholes in the law. Someone who is trying to usurp the Constitution. Someone who knows that there is no law which will prevent him from being president whether he’s a natural born citizen or not. (Dems wanted an activist Supreme Court, looks they may just get it!)
8 – It’s just plain fun watching the Obamabots go crazy!!!
The plain and simple truth is that none of us KNOW if the tapes and/or the Imam’s blessing docs really exist.
For those who are discouraged because the tapes were not released on API before the election, the MSM would not have covered it regardless, so few people would have been aware of it anyway. And even if it was plastered across every newspaper and news show in the country, so many have drank the koolaid that they may have voted for Obama anyway. So this may actually be a blessing in disguise. Now it’s up to the Supreme Court, and they must follow the Constitution – not their “feelings.”
In any event, I hold no ill will towards Korir or API. I’ve had fun following the story, reading the wide variety of comments, and (of course) watching the Obamabots’ fury. It’s no sweat off my back. If Korir has been less than honest, then he must answer to a much higher authority than either you or me. And he seems to know this.
And so, as always, Chief Korir and API staff, God bless and good luck.
And God bless the world – no exceptions!!!
africanpress said
karen808 Says:
December 3, 2008 at 3:19 pm e
Thanks Chief. HUGS. :-) Protect that evidence, Sir!
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The drama will soon take its turn
Chief editor Korir
philadelphiaroofdoctor said
Good Morning Chief,
Did you get your email straightened out last night?
Are you interested in using our website (MommaE’s website)for distribution of the tape? If so, I have set up a special user account for you where only you and two of the site administrators have access (myself and CreativeOgre (who does our programming) have access. The other moderators and administrators can’t even see the area. Communication there will be totally secure and the tape can be uploaded there. The tape remain there and will not be distributed until you personally give your permission.
If you are interested, I can send you the login details (your secret username and password) by email or even have MommaE send it to you.
You can check out our site at www dot countryfirst.bravehost.com and clicking on “Message Forum” where you can look around, but not post without registering.
I have previously sent you my telephone numbers by email. Do you have them?
If we can be of service to you, let us know.
PRD
hushboadicea said
Karen -
I agree with your assessment of the rioting. If Obama is not eligible to be President, and if he has, in fact, forged legal documents to cover his tracks, then he is simply a common criminal. Likewise, only common criminals who would want him in office any way would resort to violence and rioting. We might as well find out now and just deal with it.
I have faith in the American people though. Whatever civil unrest occurs will be minimal. Most Americans have too much respect for the Constitution to do otherwise. I also think many, many, many Obama voters will be furious at what Obama has done. In effect, Obama stole their votes.
I’d also point out, however, that if Obama is allowed to take office without proving his natural born citizenship status, then there will be a revolution. I don’t like the thought, but I believe it with all my heart. Fortunately for us, we are still an armed citizenry who can and will defend our rights and our Constitution. If Obama has any intention of creating the same chaos and terror as Odinga created in Kenya, I think he’ll be in for quite the surprise. There are too many of us who own firearms and know how to use them.
Or maybe not. Perhaps he does know that, and that’s exactly why he’s so against the 2nd Amendment.
Blessings!