Comments on: RAILA ODINGA and ODM HYPOCRISY DEMYSTIFIED http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/ This is your "Daily Online News Channel". Thu, 19 Nov 2009 11:36:02 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Sunny http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28612 Sunny Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:51:27 +0000 http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28612 Well written article...when will we go beyound tribal and different races and see our faces as HUMANBEINGS...God's Children..my heart weeps for all those innocent ones killed and displaced for living their lives in the Republic... Did our elders create this Independence for us to slaughter each other.. yes it takes a couple of generations to understand the meaning of FREEDOM... or are we so lazy that we feel comfortable being dominated by selish ego driven politicans? whose MOTO is " IT IS OUR TURN TO EAT" and keep raping the treasury of the republic.. Please do keep putting out the real story behind this mayhem, chaos and GREED. Well written article…when will we go beyound tribal and different races and see our faces as HUMANBEINGS…God’s Children..my heart weeps for all those innocent ones killed and displaced for living their lives in the Republic… Did our elders create this Independence for us to slaughter each other.. yes it takes a couple of generations to understand the meaning of FREEDOM… or are we so lazy that we feel comfortable being dominated by selish ego driven politicans? whose MOTO is ” IT IS OUR TURN TO EAT” and keep raping the treasury of the republic..
Please do keep putting out the real story behind this mayhem, chaos and GREED.

]]> By: Emali Wanyama http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28545 Emali Wanyama Thu, 21 Feb 2008 13:28:45 +0000 http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28545 People, people, it is time to pray for Kenya, seriously. We can see from this blog just house much hatred there is, but what comes will destroy us all. The rich will fly out and the poor will be left fighting it out. Why not try and get along? If you dont want other tribes as your neighbours offer your land for sale to your tribesmen only. Otherwise hakuna haja ya kuchukua pesa ya watu only to plan to kill them all off a few years down the line. We need each other! But above all we need to pray to the almighty God for peace in Kenya. People, people, it is time to pray for Kenya, seriously. We can see from this blog just house much hatred there is, but what comes will destroy us all. The rich will fly out and the poor will be left fighting it out. Why not try and get along? If you dont want other tribes as your neighbours offer your land for sale to your tribesmen only. Otherwise hakuna haja ya kuchukua pesa ya watu only to plan to kill them all off a few years down the line. We need each other! But above all we need to pray to the almighty God for peace in Kenya.

]]> By: Sam K http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28533 Sam K Thu, 21 Feb 2008 06:32:45 +0000 http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28533 I am sorry to have to discard Jango's submission about Kalenjins not owning land in central or any other part of the country as rubbish. I am sure there are so many Kalenjins and Kenyans in general in almost every part of this country. I have met Kalenjins in Karen, Ngong, Kiserian and even Kajiado. It will not necessarily mean that the land they bought was owned by Maasai's. They might as well have bought the land from a Kikuyu. Why are we not hearing of them being kicked out. Let us all embrace each other like we did before and let the politicians sort out the mess they have put our country into. I agree totally with the article that Ruto, Raila and their members have to face the full force of the law and answer to criminal charges of turning kenyans againast each other. If Raila and his group are sure that they really won, they would not even have accepted to share power with a losing side, so there is still alot of questions surrounding the whole turn-around. This is not the time to look back but a time to focus on the way forward and heal our Nation. We all need jobs anywhere in Kenya coz our kids and families need to live, school anywhere in the republic.Its not time for calling on Kenyans to go back to the streets and destroy what remained to be salvaged after weeks of destruction. They burned Kisumu, Eldoret, Kericho and people's homes, what will they burn now? The MPs went to parliament so as to sign for their paycheck. They receive their money whether they go to parliament or not. What do we have if we can't go to work to earn our daily bread? Let us not be turned againast each other by people who are out to fulfil their own selfish needs. I am sorry to have to discard Jango’s submission about Kalenjins not owning land in central or any other part of the country as rubbish. I am sure there are so many Kalenjins and Kenyans in general in almost every part of this country. I have met Kalenjins in Karen, Ngong, Kiserian and even Kajiado. It will not necessarily mean that the land they bought was owned by Maasai’s. They might as well have bought the land from a Kikuyu. Why are we not hearing of them being kicked out.

Let us all embrace each other like we did before and let the politicians sort out the mess they have put our country into. I agree totally with the article that Ruto, Raila and their members have to face the full force of the law and answer to criminal charges of turning kenyans againast each other.

If Raila and his group are sure that they really won, they would not even have accepted to share power with a losing side, so there is still alot of questions surrounding the whole turn-around. This is not the time to look back but a time to focus on the way forward and heal our Nation.

We all need jobs anywhere in Kenya coz our kids and families need to live, school anywhere in the republic.Its not time for calling on Kenyans to go back to the streets and destroy what remained to be salvaged after weeks of destruction. They burned Kisumu, Eldoret, Kericho and people’s homes, what will they burn now?

The MPs went to parliament so as to sign for their paycheck. They receive their money whether they go to parliament or not. What do we have if we can’t go to work to earn our daily bread? Let us not be turned againast each other by people who are out to fulfil their own selfish needs.

]]> By: Mtachaamambhi http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28511 Mtachaamambhi Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:39:54 +0000 http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28511 Send this article Observers disappointed with omission of Bush trip... 2008-02-20 09:51:35 By Hirondelle News Agency, Arusha An omission in President George Bush`s itinerary to visit the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) in Arusha, trying key suspects of the 1994 genocide, was considered by observers as serious oversight and a big drawback to global efforts of building democracy, equality and good governance. Bush, who left yesterday for Rwanda was in the country for a four-day state visit since last Saturday. He visited Arusha on Monday and toured a local district hospital, a Masaai school and a factory manufacturing malaria-treated nets. The ICTR, one of the show piece of global community`s determination to fight culture of impunity and a shinning example of world`s united efforts for peace in Rwanda and other Great Lakes region, is the first post second world war`s international tribunal trying people who committed genocide and rape, as a weapon for mass elimination of an ethnic group. The ICTR`s Head of Information, Bocar Sy, confirmed to `Hirondelle Agency` that President Bush was not in their list of visitors during the trip. ``United States is considered as the world champion against different forms of discrimination, hatred or evil that degrades human beings or peoples of any nation. The oversight of not coming to see what global judicial experts are doing at the ICTR is a big miss in President Bush`s visit to Arusha and Tanzania at large,`` said Simon Mapolu, an independent management consultant based in Arusha. ``The oversight can greatly undermine President Bush`s perceived course of free and tolerant world,`` he added. More than 800 people from different parts of the world (including US) have created the world`s first genocide ad hoc tribunal that is trying suspects of one of the modern century`s crudest form of killings-machetes,knives,nail-studded sticks and iron bars, among others. According to UN estimates, about 800,000 ethnic Tutsis and moderate Hutus were killed in the April-July 1994 mass slaughter. The former US President Bill Clinton has publicly apologised for the genocide as well as the former UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan. To date, the ICTR remains the best jurisprudence to try genocide and war crimes suspects, although the International Criminal Court (ICC) has just indicted some suspects of war crimes. The ICTR was created from the scratch and judicial experts and judges had to establish rules and regulations on how to try and judge genocide suspects. ``Skipping ICTR in President Bush`s visit is not fair. He is the man who has stressed on world democracy and freedom of mankind. Downplaying ICTR is tantamount to undermining genuine efforts made to end culture of impunity in Great Lakes region, and the world at large,`` remarked seasoned journalist, Nicodemus Ikonko, based in Dar es Salaam, but who also had a privilege to cover the tribunal for more than eight years for an independent news agency in 1990s up to 2004. A prominent Arusha businessman, Walter Maeda, said that the US is one of the largest contributors to the United Nations budget ``and I consider it should have been very obvious for Bush to be interested in seeing the operations of the ICTR.`` A defence lawyer at the UN Court, Patrice Monthe, was happy that the US President has skipped ICTR in his diary: ``What the US is doing in the Guantanamo Bay, (for that reason) we don`t need Bush to come here (ICTR).`` Set up in November 1994 by the United Nations Security Council, the tribunal has to date rendered 35 judgements, resulting in 30 convictions and five acquittals. Currently eleven trials are in progress involving 27 accused, according to the ICTR Prosecutor`s spokesman, Tim Gallimore. He said nine accused are awaiting the start of their trial. The UN has set a deadline of December 2008 for first instance trials and appeals by 2010 Send this article

Observers disappointed with omission of Bush trip…

2008-02-20 09:51:35
By Hirondelle News Agency, Arusha

An omission in President George Bush`s itinerary to visit the International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda (ICTR) in Arusha, trying key suspects of the 1994 genocide, was considered by observers as serious oversight and a big drawback to global efforts of building democracy, equality and good governance.

Bush, who left yesterday for Rwanda was in the country for a four-day state visit since last Saturday.

He visited Arusha on Monday and toured a local district hospital, a Masaai school and a factory manufacturing malaria-treated nets.

The ICTR, one of the show piece of global community`s determination to fight culture of impunity and a shinning example of world`s united efforts for peace in Rwanda and other Great Lakes region, is the first post second world war`s international tribunal trying people who committed genocide and rape, as a weapon for mass elimination of an ethnic group.

The ICTR`s Head of Information, Bocar Sy, confirmed to `Hirondelle Agency` that President Bush was not in their list of visitors during the trip.

“United States is considered as the world champion against different forms of discrimination, hatred or evil that degrades human beings or peoples of any nation.

The oversight of not coming to see what global judicial experts are doing at the ICTR is a big miss in President Bush`s visit to Arusha and Tanzania at large,“ said Simon Mapolu, an independent management consultant based in Arusha.

“The oversight can greatly undermine President Bush`s perceived course of free and tolerant world,“ he added.

More than 800 people from different parts of the world (including US) have created the world`s first genocide ad hoc tribunal that is trying suspects of one of the modern century`s crudest form of killings-machetes,knives,nail-studded sticks and iron bars, among others.

According to UN estimates, about 800,000 ethnic Tutsis and moderate Hutus were killed in the April-July 1994 mass slaughter.

The former US President Bill Clinton has publicly apologised for the genocide as well as the former UN Secretary General, Kofi Annan.

To date, the ICTR remains the best jurisprudence to try genocide and war crimes suspects, although the International Criminal Court (ICC) has just indicted some suspects of war crimes.

The ICTR was created from the scratch and judicial experts and judges had to establish rules and regulations on how to try and judge genocide suspects.

“Skipping ICTR in President Bush`s visit is not fair. He is the man who has stressed on world democracy and freedom of mankind. Downplaying ICTR is tantamount to undermining genuine efforts made to end culture of impunity in Great Lakes region, and the world at large,“ remarked seasoned journalist, Nicodemus Ikonko, based in Dar es Salaam, but who also had a privilege to cover the tribunal for more than eight years for an independent news agency in 1990s up to 2004.

A prominent Arusha businessman, Walter Maeda, said that the US is one of the largest contributors to the United Nations budget “and I consider it should have been very obvious for Bush to be interested in seeing the operations of the ICTR.“

A defence lawyer at the UN Court, Patrice Monthe, was happy that the US President has skipped ICTR in his diary: “What the US is doing in the Guantanamo Bay, (for that reason) we don`t need Bush to come here (ICTR).“

Set up in November 1994 by the United Nations Security Council, the tribunal has to date rendered 35 judgements, resulting in 30 convictions and five acquittals.

Currently eleven trials are in progress involving 27 accused, according to the ICTR Prosecutor`s spokesman, Tim Gallimore.

He said nine accused are awaiting the start of their trial.
The UN has set a deadline of December 2008 for first instance trials and appeals by 2010

]]> By: Emali Wanyama http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28501 Emali Wanyama Wed, 20 Feb 2008 03:50:29 +0000 http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28501 Kinyari, I don't even think you need to explain whether central province is densely populated or not. These Kalenjins accept money when they offer their land for sale, willing buyer willing seller. Let them stop taking other people's money and that way no one will buy their land. And by the way Jango, there are very many Kalenjins who own land, or plots and houses in central, maybe this majimbo thing should come so the likes of you can see just how many people will come back to your area from central. Kinyari,
I don’t even think you need to explain whether central province is densely populated or not. These Kalenjins accept money when they offer their land for sale, willing buyer willing seller. Let them stop taking other people’s money and that way no one will buy their land.
And by the way Jango, there are very many Kalenjins who own land, or plots and houses in central, maybe this majimbo thing should come so the likes of you can see just how many people will come back to your area from central.

]]> By: pkinyari http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28490 pkinyari Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:04:45 +0000 http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28490 Jango, the fact that very few few Kalenjins own land outside Rift valley is no justification for them to kill the people who own land in Rift valley. Let it be known that failure by someone to invest in any other parts of the country does not demonize the one who has invested outside his perceived home province. Who has ever attempted to buy land offered for sale in central and been refused? Fellow Kenyans if we were to live in our traditional tribal cocoons we will never participate in the 21st democracy and technological advancement. The first world countries such as Britian and US don’t have land for everybody. And everyone in Kenya must not own a piece of land to survive. The population density in Kenya is very much skewed in central province. Most of the land in Kenya is not arable. Everyone cannot rely on agriculture for livelihood. Let’s educate our people that we can also buy stocks from the NSE and indeed all over the world as alternative investment. Trying to argue that the land in rift valley should belong ‘to a certain community is taking the county back to the 19th century where each community had known boundaries. You may even be surprised to learn that the current land occupied by the Kalenjins was not entirely theirs; some good chunks actually belonged to the maasai’s. This is even the more reason why we cannot live in history. Let’s face the 21st century challenges with the right tools. Technological advancement, expanding to unexploited territories such as the southern Sudan and DRC Congo. If we continue argue about how to divide the fast diminishing land in Kenya we shall never develop. In my view land should be given to the person who can turn it round and make economic viable investment in it, employ people and produce enough food for the nation irrespective of your tribe. Jango, the fact that very few few Kalenjins own land outside Rift valley is no justification for them to kill the people who own land in Rift valley. Let it be known that failure by someone to invest in any other parts of the country does not demonize the one who has invested outside his perceived home province. Who has ever attempted to buy land offered for sale in central and been refused? Fellow Kenyans if we were to live in our traditional tribal cocoons we will never participate in the 21st democracy and technological advancement. The first world countries such as Britian and US don’t have land for everybody. And everyone in Kenya must not own a piece of land to survive. The population density in Kenya is very much skewed in central province. Most of the land in Kenya is not arable. Everyone cannot rely on agriculture for livelihood. Let’s educate our people that we can also buy stocks from the NSE and indeed all over the world as alternative investment.

Trying to argue that the land in rift valley should belong ‘to a certain community is taking the county back to the 19th century where each community had known boundaries. You may even be surprised to learn that the current land occupied by the Kalenjins was not entirely theirs; some good chunks actually belonged to the maasai’s. This is even the more reason why we cannot live in history. Let’s face the 21st century challenges with the right tools. Technological advancement, expanding to unexploited territories such as the southern Sudan and DRC Congo. If we continue argue about how to divide the fast diminishing land in Kenya we shall never develop. In my view land should be given to the person who can turn it round and make economic viable investment in it, employ people and produce enough food for the nation irrespective of your tribe.

]]> By: Jango http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28486 Jango Tue, 19 Feb 2008 13:49:39 +0000 http://africanpress.wordpress.com/2008/01/23/raila-odinga-and-odm-hypocrisy-demystified/#comment-28486 I think that it is completely unfair on members of the nandi community to have them turned into tenants in their ancestral land there should be a chnage in law that makes it compulsory for outsiders not to own land for instance how many kalenjins can say they own any property in central or eastern province? I think that it is completely unfair on members of the nandi community to have them turned into tenants in their ancestral land there should be a chnage in law that makes it compulsory for outsiders not to own land for instance how many kalenjins can say they own any property in central or eastern province?

]]>